50g

> 1a. Re: HP 27S Solver & HP 50g Solve
> Posted by: "Guy Teague" accts@... gteague

> hp used to be renowned for their quality and it was a sad day to see 'made
> in singapore' on an hp27s i bought although it's still one of my favorite
> calculators as to operation even though it literally eats expensive
> batteries and you can barely see the display. i wonder if any of the folks
> praising the 'quality' of the hp50 have even worked on an hp35, 45, 55 &c.
> the new hp35 're-issue' was a welcome attempt and it indeed brings back fond
> memories of when hp wrote the book on calculator quality, but the interface
> and programming are not good and i myself found a bug in it and when it
> comes down to me finding a bug hp missed, they are indeed in trouble.

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Cary Enoch R... aka Enoch's Vision, Inc. <caryenochr@...> wrote:

Why does "made in Singapore" distress you?

i guess you  have to be of the age when 'made in america' meant something special. it just seemed the end of an era for hp, a prototypical american company. hp quality was renowned, the world standard. nearly every piece of test equipment i used in the navy was hp. for them to compromise in any way just seemed a betrayal of all they stood for.
 

HP calculators have been manufactured in Singapore in addition to other places for more
than the past 30 years. Singapore has world class manufacturing facilities and a highly
skilled workforce. Singapore is a source of Intel CPUs and numerous primary components
from other manufacturers also.

<del>

and today there is no stigma (or little) re overseas manufacture. i personally never envision buying another american car, ever. and i distrust the japanese cars which are manufactured here.

/guy
 

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The function of art is to reveal this radiance through the created object. - Joseph Campbell

--- In 50g@yahoogroups.com, "Guy Teague" <accts@...> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Cary Enoch R... aka Enoch's Vision, Inc. <
> caryenochr@...> wrote:
>
> > Why does "made in Singapore" distress you?
> >
>
> i guess you have to be of the age when 'made in america' meant something
> special. it just seemed the end of an era for hp, a prototypical american
> company. hp quality was renowned, the world standard. nearly every piece of
> test equipment i used in the navy was hp. for them to compromise in any way
> just seemed a betrayal of all they stood for.
>
>
> >
> > HP calculators have been manufactured in Singapore in addition to other
> > places for more
> > than the past 30 years. Singapore has world class manufacturing facilities
> > and a highly
> > skilled workforce. Singapore is a source of Intel CPUs and numerous primary
> > components
> > from other manufacturers also.
> >
> > <del>
> >
>
> and today there is no stigma (or little) re overseas manufacture. i
> personally never envision buying another american car, ever. and i distrust
> the japanese cars which are manufactured here.
>
> /guy
>
>
> > --
> > Cary Enoch Reinstein... aka enochsvision, Enoch's Vision Inc.
> > Art--Photography http://www.enochsvision.com Baha'i History:
> > http://www.viewsofakka.com
> > Blog: http://enochsvision.wordpress.com Videos:
> > http://www.youtube.com/enochsvision9
> > Behind all these manifestations is the one radiance, which shines through
> > all things.
> > The function of art is to reveal this radiance through the created object.
> > - Joseph Campbell
> >
> >
>

>
> I suppose free trade and open markets have meaning only when it is
> advantageous
> to America. Mr Teague, wake up to the new flat world!
>
> I find the 50g made in China or Singapore no less in quality than the
> 48g+ made in
> USA. HP's quality control is still legendary. By going global HP has
> contained the cost
> and increased profitability. I see nothing wrong with that.
>
> --- In 50g@yahoogroups.com <mailto:50g%40yahoogroups.com>, "Guy
> Teague" <accts@...> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Cary Enoch R... aka Enoch's Vision,
> Inc. <
> > caryenochr@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Why does "made in Singapore" distress you?
> > >
> >
> > i guess you have to be of the age when 'made in america' meant something
> > special. it just seemed the end of an era for hp, a prototypical
> american
> > company. hp quality was renowned, the world standard. nearly every
> piece of
> > test equipment i used in the navy was hp. for them to compromise in
> any way
> > just seemed a betrayal of all they stood for.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > HP calculators have been manufactured in Singapore in addition to
> other
> > > places for more
> > > than the past 30 years. Singapore has world class manufacturing
> facilities
> > > and a highly
> > > skilled workforce. Singapore is a source of Intel CPUs and
> numerous primary
> > > components
> > > from other manufacturers also.
> > >
> > > <del>
> > >
> >
> > and today there is no stigma (or little) re overseas manufacture. i
> > personally never envision buying another american car, ever. and i
> distrust
> > the japanese cars which are manufactured here.
> >
> > /guy
> >
> >
> > > --
> > > Cary Enoch Reinstein... aka enochsvision, Enoch's Vision Inc.
> > > Art--Photography http://www.enochsvision.com
> <http://www.enochsvision.com> Baha'i History:
> > > http://www.viewsofakka.com <http://www.viewsofakka.com>
> > > Blog: http://enochsvision.wordpress.com
> <http://enochsvision.wordpress.com> Videos:
> > > http://www.youtube.com/enochsvision9
> <http://www.youtube.com/enochsvision9>
> > > Behind all these manifestations is the one radiance, which shines
> through
> > > all things.
> > > The function of art is to reveal this radiance through the created
> object.
> > > - Joseph Campbell
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Cary Enoch R... aka Enoch's Vision,

> caryenochr@...> wrote:
>
> > Why does "made in Singapore" distress you?
> >
>
> i guess you have to be of the age when 'made in america' meant

> special. it just seemed the end of an era for hp, a prototypical

> company. hp quality was renowned, the world standard. nearly every

> test equipment i used in the navy was hp. for them to compromise in

> just seemed a betrayal of all they stood for.
>

>
> > 1a. Re: HP 27S Solver & HP 50g Solve
> > Posted by: "Guy Teague" accts@... gteague
>
> > hp used to be renowned for their quality and it was a sad day to

> > in singapore' on an hp27s i bought although it's still one of my

> > calculators as to operation even though it literally eats expensive
> > batteries and you can barely see the display. i wonder if any of

> > praising the 'quality' of the hp50 have even worked on an hp35,

> > the new hp35 're-issue' was a welcome attempt and it indeed brings

> > memories of when hp wrote the book on calculator quality, but the

> > and programming are not good and i myself found a bug in it and

> > comes down to me finding a bug hp missed, they are indeed in trouble.
>
> Why does "made in Singapore" distress you?
>
> HP calculators have been manufactured in Singapore in addition to

> than the past 30 years. Singapore has world class manufacturing

> skilled workforce. Singapore is a source of Intel CPUs and numerous

> from other manufacturers also.
>
> It was actually more profitable for HP to ship calculator components

> Oregon to Asia. They were assembled there and then returned to the

> final shipment. That practice is no different than those of nearly

> manufacturer you can name, whether their corporate headquarters are

> Today the world's cheapest manufacturing comes from China which is

> dumping ground for all the toxic byproducts of electronics

>
> [ sidebar: I worked for HP/Corvallis in 1983, and for Intel from

>
> I believe the last model that HP manufactured mostly in the USA was

> the keyboard, there was a entirely different design. Each key

> three-part cup-like structure. If you spilled a small amount of

> you could just turn it over and shake it out. The HP41 and the

> cheaper and less sturdy snap disk keys (basically just a thin sheet

> protrusions under the keys).
>
> The HP49 was designed by Kinpo Electronics, Inc. At one time HP's

> most profitable product. They were designed by the Advanced Products

> Corvallis, Oregon. I believe it is just a minor profit center now if

>
> Explore: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_calculators
>
> --
> Cary Enoch Reinstein... aka enochsvision, Enoch's Vision Inc.
> Art--Photography http://www.enochsvision.com Baha'i History:

> Blog: http://enochsvision.wordpress.com Videos:

> Behind all these manifestations is the one radiance, which shines

> The function of art is to reveal this radiance through the created

>