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BODE-ROUTH

BODE-ROUTH

2008-04-16 by Simone

Hello, I'm learning to use program BODE-ROUTH
(http://www.hpcalc.org/details. php? id=3176), that it uses NEOPOLYS
(http://www.hpcalc.org/details. php? id=3169). But when I try to
insert the negative coefficients or negative roots of the polynomial
at the numerator and at the denominator, and trying to trace the
diagram, for example Bode, give back error to me:

NEG Error: Bad Argument Type or
ABS Error: Bad Argument Type!

I have tried also on the emu48 but the behavior is the same one.

e.g.:

2: {1 -2 1}
1: {1 -3 2 -1}

2: {1 2 1}
1: {{0 1 -2 -3}}

With all the positive values they do not give error to me. Someone can
help me? Best regards, Simone.

Re: BODE-ROUTH

2008-04-16 by OLLIVIER

Hello,

Sorry but for me it's ok, I have any problems.
May be it's a problem with your flag?!?!

Nico

Re: BODE-ROUTH

2008-04-17 by Tim Wessman

> Sorry but for me it's ok, I have any problems.
> May be it's a problem with your flag?!?!


More than likely yoy have ZINTs instead of reals. If the numbers
don't have a '.' at the end, they are a symbolic object. Many of the
older programs later ported to the 49 never changed things to make it
work. Set you calc to approximate so you will get this

{ 1. -2. 3. } instead of {1 -2 3}

TW

Re: BODE-ROUTH

2008-04-17 by Simone

--- In 50g@yahoogroups.com, "OLLIVIER" <nicolas.ollivier@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Sorry but for me it's ok, I have any problems.
> May be it's a problem with your flag?!?!
>
> Nico
>

Which flag?

Simone

Re: BODE-ROUTH

2008-05-24 by Simone

--- In 50g@yahoogroups.com, "Simone" <gems_tux@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, I'm learning to use program BODE-ROUTH
> (http://www.hpcalc.org/details. php? id=3176), that it uses NEOPOLYS
> (http://www.hpcalc.org/details. php? id=3169). But when I try to
> insert the negative coefficients or negative roots of the polynomial
> at the numerator and at the denominator, and trying to trace the
> diagram, for example Bode, give back error to me:
>
> NEG Error: Bad Argument Type or
> ABS Error: Bad Argument Type!
>
> I have tried also on the emu48 but the behavior is the same one.
>
> e.g.:
>
> 2: {1 -2 1}
> 1: {1 -3 2 -1}
>
> 2: {1 2 1}
> 1: {{0 1 -2 -3}}
>
> With all the positive values they do not give error to me. Someone can
> help me? Best regards, Simone.
>

I have resolved the problem using the key [-] and not [+/-]

Simone

Re: BODE-ROUTH

2008-05-24 by arthurford4142

> I have resolved the problem using the key [-] and not [+/-]
>
> Simone
>

Thanks for writing back with the resolution of your problem. This is a
good tip; it's going in my "tips" folder.

Re: [50g] Re: BODE-ROUTH

2008-07-10 by ucho oddone

Are you sure it wasn't the aprox thing that TW told you?
That's very weird, I never had that problem when I used those programs for Control systems!
But my calc was, as I remember, in Approximation mode.

it just seem strange to enter [-]  instead of [+/-]





On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 04:16, Simone <gems_tux@...> wrote:

--- In 50g@yahoogroups.com, "Simone" <gems_tux@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, I'm learning to use program BODE-ROUTH
> (http://www.hpcalc.org/details. php? id=3176), that it uses NEOPOLYS
> (http://www.hpcalc.org/details. php? id=3169). But when I try to
> insert the negative coefficients or negative roots of the polynomial
> at the numerator and at the denominator, and trying to trace the
> diagram, for example Bode, give back error to me:
>
> NEG Error: Bad Argument Type or
> ABS Error: Bad Argument Type!
>
> I have tried also on the emu48 but the behavior is the same one.
>
> e.g.:
>
> 2: {1 -2 1}
> 1: {1 -3 2 -1}
>
> 2: {1 2 1}
> 1: {{0 1 -2 -3}}
>
> With all the positive values they do not give error to me. Someone can
> help me? Best regards, Simone.
>

I have resolved the problem using the key [-] and not [+/-]

Simone


Re: BODE-ROUTH

2008-10-07 by Simone

INPUT METHOD:

a) first [+/-] and then number -> NEG Error: Bad Argument Type or ABS
Error: Bad Argument Type!
b) first [-] and then number -> ok
c) first number and then [+/-] -> ok


--- In 50g@yahoogroups.com, "ucho oddone" <ucho92@...> wrote:
>
> Are you sure it wasn't the aprox thing that TW told you?
> That's very weird, I never had that problem when I used those
programs for
> Control systems!
> But my calc was, as I remember, in Approximation mode.
>
> it just seem strange to enter [-] instead of [+/-]
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 04:16, Simone <gems_tux@...> wrote:
>
> > --- In 50g@yahoogroups.com <50g%40yahoogroups.com>, "Simone"
<gems_tux@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello, I'm learning to use program BODE-ROUTH
> > > (http://www.hpcalc.org/details. php? id=3176), that it uses NEOPOLYS
> > > (http://www.hpcalc.org/details. php? id=3169). But when I try to
> > > insert the negative coefficients or negative roots of the polynomial
> > > at the numerator and at the denominator, and trying to trace the
> > > diagram, for example Bode, give back error to me:
> > >
> > > NEG Error: Bad Argument Type or
> > > ABS Error: Bad Argument Type!
> > >
> > > I have tried also on the emu48 but the behavior is the same one.
> > >
> > > e.g.:
> > >
> > > 2: {1 -2 1}
> > > 1: {1 -3 2 -1}
> > >
> > > 2: {1 2 1}
> > > 1: {{0 1 -2 -3}}
> > >
> > > With all the positive values they do not give error to me.
Someone can
> > > help me? Best regards, Simone.
> > >
> >
> > I have resolved the problem using the key [-] and not [+/-]
> >
> > Simone
> >
> >
> >
>