I totally agree. I hate the fact schools are set on TI calculators.
It seems those in charge cannot think out of the box.
A lot of kids will miss out on RPN, which is more intuitive,
and makes using a calculator more fun, in my opinion.
--- On Sun, 9/21/08, Ryokyo Lyons <oykoyr@...> wrote:
From: Ryokyo Lyons <oykoyr@...>
Subject: Re: [50g] HP50g not allowed on CSET Math Level II
To: 50g@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 11:04 PM
This is the kind of nonsense that puts people of math, and off of math teaching, Today,calculators are as common is dirt, We had this debate almost 40 years back, when the first basic 4 function calculators were the price of a used car. Using calculators on tests or on regular math does not demonstrably weaken math skills. It merely speeds execution of the problems in question. The bottom line is this, and always will be. You must know how to do the math in order to use the calculator in the first place. It is as true with simple square roots as it is with calculus. Anyone telling you anything else, regardless of what "authority" they might hold, is being plain backwards, and dinosaur-like in their thinking and methods. These people ought to be dragged, kicking and screaming into the 21st Century.
Roci
--- On Sun, 9/21/08, Jose J Martinez <jose_j_martinez@ hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Jose J Martinez <jose_j_martinez@ hotmail.com>
Subject: [50g] HP50g not allowed on CSET Math Level II
To: 50g@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 12:50 PM
Hi everyone,
I know that a lot of you are international users of the HP50g. But, I
thought it would be interesting to know that in California the CSET
Math II exam does not allow the use of of the HP50g. This is one of
the three tests that you must take in order to become a math teacher
in California. The CSET does allow the use of the TI-84, TI-84 Plus,
TI-84 Plus Silver, TI-85, TI-86, TI-89, TI-89 Titanium, HP 49g, and HP
49g+. It almost seems like a conspiracy against HP because students
won't buy a new HP 50g if they can't use it on this exam. So, this
essentially means that many less future math students will be exposed
to an excellent graphing/math utility. What a shame.
