50g

8bit no parity is the default, at least it was on
previous models (hp48 & hp49). So, nothing to set but
the baud.

And you do need a serial cable but not just an
ordinary one. It's my understanding that the serial
port of the 50g doesn't meet the RS232 spec, voltage
is wrong as I recall. So you need a special cable made
just for the 50g. The one Matthew got at hpcalc.org
should be correct, I guess, since it works. I think it
was Samson Cables makes (or did make) one, too. See:
Message-ID:
<1172730293.195038.210160@...>

I have to qualify my statements by saying I don't have
a 50g and never used one in the serial mode, but have
use the 48g & 49g as such. I mostly lurk here but
occasionally reply when I'm pretty sure I'm correct.

 
--- m2mbob <bob.ryan@...> wrote:

> Question for Matthew:
> 
> From your post I'm gathering that you have
> successfully sent a
> character string from your 50g to an active cell in
> an open Excel
> file, or to the insertion point in some other file.
> 
> I'm having trouble following what you did to get
> there.
> 
> When I open the input form for APPS, I/O
> functions..., Transfer...,
> the fields that I see in the input form don't appear
> to support input
> corresponding to "8N1 19k baud Xon/off".  I also
> can't find any
> reference to "hyperterminal" anywhere in the three
> PDF manuals that
> supply most of my comic relief.
> 
> I must be truly lost.  My first suspicion (smack me
> with the cold fish
> of the obvious here) is that I'm trying to get the
> 50g to talk to the
> PC using the USB port and cable, when I should be
> using the serial
> port and a serial cable of some kind.
> 
> If, in the input form, I choose Port: Serial,
> I do see a Baud: field (which I had earlier stumbled
> upon using the
> BAUD command).  So I have a faint whiff of (maybe)
> picking up your
> trail.  But I can't fathom how to squish the rest of
> "8N1 19k baud
> Xon/off" into this input form, nor what physical
> connection you are
> using between 50g and PC.
> 
> All of my previous experience of HP calculator I/O
> has been via two
> fingers and the occasional calculator dope-slap
> against my forehead.
> Could you drop a couple of loaf-sized breadcrumbs to
> lead me in the
> right direction?
> 
> --- In 50g@yahoogroups.com, "ntesla66"
> <ntesla66@...> wrote:
> >
> > Howdy All. Yep I set hyperterminal to "8N1 19k
> baud Xon/off" and the
> > program works as advertised. You have to be sure
> and set these
> > parameters in the "APPS" i/o functions transfer
> section and leave it
> > set to Kermit. 
> > I have a newbie question (the 50g is my first HP
> calc ever) How do I
> > pass characters that the calc recognizes as
> operators with out a
> > syntax error? Characters such as +*? . Say I
> wanted to transmit the
> > string "*IDN?" This would cause a GPIB device to
> return its identity.
> > Regards
> > Matthew
> > 
> > --- In 50g@yahoogroups.com, "m2mbob" <bob.ryan@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for your patience! After making the
> correction that you 
> > > recommended (eliminating the space between ->
> and STR ), the program 
> > > appears to function as expected.  After
> executing, I have the value: 
> > > 1 in the x-register. 
> > > I believe that the value: 1 is the code that
> XMIT
> > > returns if the transmission was successful. 
> > > So from here the likely head-scratcher will be
> how to get the PC and 
> > > the target PC application to receive the string.
> > > BTW, your knowledge of RPL and the 4x:50 family
> are impressive!
> > > 
> > > --- In 50g@yahoogroups.com, Dave Boyd <boydda@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > m2mbob wrote:
> > > > > Thanks again!  Part of my confusion did
> indeed come from missing 
> > > the 
> > > > > fact that the manual's description of XMIT
> uses ALG rather than 
> > > RPN...
> > > > > 
> > > > > I still find, however, that if I write the
> program and then press 
> > > > > [ENTER], I get this error message:
> > > > >            Invalid Syntax
> > > > > 
> > > > > For example (in RPN mode):
> > > > > 3
> > > > > 7
> > > > > 5
> > > > > [ENTER]                  (stores value 375
> in x-reg.)
> > > > > [right-shift][+]         (<< >> to enter
> program mode)
> > > > > [right-shift][0]         (the -> character)
> > > > 
> > > > ...and a space, which you don't want.  So now
> you [backspace], and 
> > > then...
> > > > 
> > > > > [ALPHA][APLHA]           (prepares to input
> the next characters)
> > > > > S
> > > > > T
> > > > > R
> > > > 
> > > > And now you have ->STR, instead of -> STR.
> > > > 
> > > > Also, you may (or may not) find it quicker
> just to hold down the 
> > > alpha 
> > > > key and press S, T, R, in sequence, then let
> go of the alpha key.  
> > > You 
> > > > can even keep it held down while typing the
> numbers and [+], [-], 
> > > and 
> > > > [*] (alas, the [/] key is shared with Z).
> > > > 
> > > > > [SPC]                    (signals the end of
> the "STR" argument)
> > > > > [right-shift][SYMB]      (the CAT menu)
> > > > > (scroll to) XMIT
> > > > 
> > > > Or, instead of scrolling to XMIT from wherever
> you were last, just 
> > > hold 
> > > > the ALPHA key and press X, to get you to X in
> the catalog more 
> > > quickly. 
> > > >   (You can also press [right-shift][0] to go
> the entries starting 
> > > with 
> > > > -> to get to ->STR.)
> > > > 
> > > > > [ENTER]                  (selects the XMIT
> command)
> > > > >                          (or skip the CAT
> menu and just type XMIT)
> > > > 
> > > > That's easier, yes.
> > > > 
> > > > <snip>
> > > > 
> > > > > So either ->, ->STR, or XMIT needs something
> that I'm not 
> > > providing.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Here, in advance, is the the big DUH that I
> will emit when 
> > > somebody 
> > > > > points out whatever bonehead mistake I'm
> making!
> > > > 
> > > > No need for that!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Dave Boyd
> > > > "If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the
> dominoes will fall
> > > >   like a house of cards. Checkmate."  -Capt.
> Zapp Brannigan, 
> > > D.O.O.P.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
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