tks for the reply, dave. i spent several idle hours at work on the hpcalc.org page and did indeed install filer6 although i have not yet figured out how to assign it in place of the regular filer. the hp method seemed daunting, but an app i downloaded in hopes of easing the process of keystroke reassignment, 'keyman', was even more daunting. i could not follow the example in the author's readme, so have temporarily abandoned it, although it would be nice to assign keys as double clicks or long clicks and leave the default assignments alone.
i also downloaded and installed 'sdfiler' which allows more manipulation of the sd card than filer6. but when you try to move a file from the sd card into a directory on the sd card it keeps telling me it can't move a file to the same location. i'm still working on that.
good tip on the sd card slowdown. i figured it would be a good idea to just download a bunch of apps i wanted to try later and store them on the sd card until i was ready to try them. although this was less than 40mb of a 1gb sd card i did notice the startup time was increased dramatically and i had no idea why.
what i was really looking for on the site was some way to consolidate all my programs. they are scattered among vars, flash, library and apps. surely there is some way to run everything i want to have handy from one menu using aliases if necessary? i found a program called 'appman' (i think written by the same inscrutable author of 'keyman') which was the most frustrating app that i installed. basically the scanty documentation promised there was a way to rearrange the apps menu, to hide and add your own apps. but the only command for this program was called 'info' which yielded a list of variables and never told you how to manipulate any of them. what a tease! [g]
/guy
On 9/10/07, Dave Boyd <boydda@...> wrote:Guy Teague wrote:
> his instructions (and very detailed, clear ones they were) did not included
> hitting the store key.
>
> were you able to follow the example? perhaps you need to do a hard reset
> first and try the example again.
Well, I basically only read this list during weekdays, so I apologize
for leaving those questions unanswered -- As someone else surmised, the
problem that Mr. Huntsman was having was due to the system flags 85 and
92 being set.
> now that i know how to program (!), how do i get my program into the custom
> menu in case i clear out the vars and delete it by mistake? or perhaps copy
> it to the sd card would be better? or both?
The custom menu is held in a variable called 'CST' in the Home
directory. So clearing out the wrong variables in the Home directory
would hose it there, too. (I'll leave the creating and modification of
the custom menu until later.) You are right that making backups to the
SD card (or just port 2 flash) is a good approach. There are a lot of
ways that you can archive data; some of them are built-in to the calc.
Look up ARCHIVE and RESTORE in the AUR. Also, look on www.hpcalc.org
for "archive" to find some helpful utilities to make it easier. My
personal favorite method is to install Filer6, by Prof. Wolfgang
Rautenberg, into the flash memory, and reassign the left-shift APPS key
to use Filer6 instead of the built-in Filer. Filer6 has a nice
backup/restore function that makes standard-format archives to either SD
or flash.
One thing to note is that the more things you have on your SD card, the
longer it takes for the calc to turn on. So I usually just keep the SD
card tucked in the battery compartment when I'm not using it.
> again, thanks for the great example dave. it shows up just how pitiful the
> documentation is. i've been using hp calcs since the hp55 but i seem to have
> to re-learn simple operations weekly on the 50g.
Yes. I'd really, really love the same kind of pocket reference the
HP-41 had. Of course, the 50G has many, many times the functions that
the 41 had, which is certainly part of the reason that no such document
exists. I have an HP-49G (not a HP-49G+) also, and it has a pocket ref,
but it fails on many levels, which underscores the difficulty.
--
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