200e

Hi everyone. I am the new owner of a Buchla 200e after many years of wanting one. I'm still trying to work my way around how the synth works (good thing I'm still fairly young and have many years ahead of me). I currently have two 261e's. With midi I can only seem to get one of the oscillators to follow pitch. The second OSC will trigger along with the first and I can control it in all the same ways as the first one, except in tracking pitch. So I have one OSC tracking the pitch and the second will always play the same pitch regardless.

I'm guessing that this has something to do with the way I have the 225e configured? I have both bus A and B on channel one. So I hit a key and both A and B are lighting up but I don't know if thats how it should be?

Thanks so much Richard, that completely did the trick. Changed the 261 to channel B and both are fine.

Thanks,
Heath

--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, Richard Lainhart <rlainhart@...> wrote:

>
> It may be that your second 261 is set to the same address as the  
> first, or that it's set to address C or D. Try this - hold down the  
> Remote Enable button on the first 261 for a couple of seconds, let go,  
> and watch the display in the Preset Manager. It should say something  
> like "Module 261", with a letter after it, A-D. That letter is the  
> address of the module, and that address corresponds to Busses A-D on  
> the MIDI Decoder. Based on what you've said, the first 261 should be  
> Address A. Hold down the Remote Enable for the second 261 and see what  
> its address is. If it's C or D, just assign your MIDI input to Bus C  
> or D, and it should work. If it's B, you have a problem, and you might  
> need to change the address to a different one. If it's A, you  
> definitely need to change the address.
> 
> I'm guessing that your second 261 is set to C or D. If it was A, the  
> MIDI input on Bus A would probably make both of them change (although  
> having two 261s on the same address can also just confuse the MIDI  
> Decoder, so it might just not work.) If it was B, it should work  
> correctly.
> 
> Changing the address requires setting a DIP switch on the module  
> itself. Power down, take the 261 out of the case, and locate a small  
> blue rectangular component on the edge of the circuit board. This  
> component will have two small white switches on one face.  
> Unfortunately, I can't remember the exact switch configuration for the  
> different addresses, so you'll have to set it by trial and error. It  
> might help to check the first 261 to see what its address switch is  
> set to, so you can set the second DIP switch to something else.
> 
> You'll need a small sharp tool to change the switch setting. It's a  
> two-bit switch, meaning that there are four possible positions of the  
> two switches, and that's what sets the address. It's something like:  
> Both Down = Address A; Both Up = Address D; Left Up Right Down =  
> Address B; Right Up Left Down = Address C. Or something like that.  
> Like I said, I can't recall the exact settings, so you'll have to  
> figure it out.
> 
> Most likely, though, your second 261 is set to C or D, and it might be  
> easiest to just remember that and set your bus assignments accordingly.
> 
> 
> 
> > Hi everyone. I am the new owner of a Buchla 200e after many years of  
> > wanting one. I'm still trying to work my way around how the synth  
> > works (good thing I'm still fairly young and have many years ahead  
> > of me). I currently have two 261e's. With midi I can only seem to  
> > get one of the oscillators to follow pitch. The second OSC will  
> > trigger along with the first and I can control it in all the same  
> > ways as the first one, except in tracking pitch. So I have one OSC  
> > tracking the pitch and the second will always play the same pitch  
> > regardless.
> >
> > I'm guessing that this has something to do with the way I have the  
> > 225e configured? I have both bus A and B on channel one. So I hit a  
> > key and both A and B are lighting up but I don't know if thats how  
> > it should be?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard Lainhart
> http://www.otownmedia.com
> http://www.downloadplatform.com/richard_lainhart
> http://www.vimeo.com/rlainhart
> http://www.youtube.com/rlainhart
> http://richardlainhart.bandcamp.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>

It may be that your second 261 is set to the same address as the  
first, or that it's set to address C or D. Try this - hold down the  
Remote Enable button on the first 261 for a couple of seconds, let go,  
and watch the display in the Preset Manager. It should say something  
like "Module 261", with a letter after it, A-D. That letter is the  
address of the module, and that address corresponds to Busses A-D on  
the MIDI Decoder. Based on what you've said, the first 261 should be  
Address A. Hold down the Remote Enable for the second 261 and see what  
its address is. If it's C or D, just assign your MIDI input to Bus C  
or D, and it should work. If it's B, you have a problem, and you might  
need to change the address to a different one. If it's A, you  
definitely need to change the address.

I'm guessing that your second 261 is set to C or D. If it was A, the  
MIDI input on Bus A would probably make both of them change (although  
having two 261s on the same address can also just confuse the MIDI  
Decoder, so it might just not work.) If it was B, it should work  
correctly.

Changing the address requires setting a DIP switch on the module  
itself. Power down, take the 261 out of the case, and locate a small  
blue rectangular component on the edge of the circuit board. This  
component will have two small white switches on one face.  
Unfortunately, I can't remember the exact switch configuration for the  
different addresses, so you'll have to set it by trial and error. It  
might help to check the first 261 to see what its address switch is  
set to, so you can set the second DIP switch to something else.

You'll need a small sharp tool to change the switch setting. It's a  
two-bit switch, meaning that there are four possible positions of the  
two switches, and that's what sets the address. It's something like:  
Both Down = Address A; Both Up = Address D; Left Up Right Down =  
Address B; Right Up Left Down = Address C. Or something like that.  
Like I said, I can't recall the exact settings, so you'll have to  
figure it out.

Most likely, though, your second 261 is set to C or D, and it might be  
easiest to just remember that and set your bus assignments accordingly.



> Hi everyone. I am the new owner of a Buchla 200e after many years of  
> wanting one. I'm still trying to work my way around how the synth  
> works (good thing I'm still fairly young and have many years ahead  
> of me). I currently have two 261e's. With midi I can only seem to  
> get one of the oscillators to follow pitch. The second OSC will  
> trigger along with the first and I can control it in all the same  
> ways as the first one, except in tracking pitch. So I have one OSC  
> tracking the pitch and the second will always play the same pitch  
> regardless.
>
> I'm guessing that this has something to do with the way I have the  
> 225e configured? I have both bus A and B on channel one. So I hit a  
> key and both A and B are lighting up but I don't know if thats how  
> it should be?




Richard Lainhart
http://www.otownmedia.com
http://www.downloadplatform.com/richard_lainhart
http://www.vimeo.com/rlainhart
http://www.youtube.com/rlainhart
http://richardlainhart.bandcamp.com/






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hi,

1. Patch morphing on the 225e would be VERY nice dont you think?
2. Linking 210e's, so if you add more than one they are auto-detected  
and become one matrix, for example as you scroll through the ins or  
outs, when it gets to the last one, instead of looping back around it  
jumps to the next module in the case and treats them as one. like  
someone previously mentioned there are not enough outs, this could be  
a way to solve it.

Thanks
Robert.

201e - 6      do you get the external power to plug in to the wall power 
socket?
201e - 6u     6-panel Unpowered Boat  ... this is just the box no 
internal connections and no external power

sound simple but i read it both ways

On Jun 27, 2009, at 6:59 AM, amnesia wrote:

> 201e - 6      do you get the external power to plug in to the wall  
> power
> socket?
> 201e - 6u     6-panel Unpowered Boat  ... this is just the box no
> internal connections and no external power


i think the 201e-6u s the same as an upper/lower boat (shallower and  
has power distribution boards but no power supply of it's own). the  
power supply lives in the 201e-6 aka the middle boat (deeper and with  
a power supply board).

so you do get "internal connections" but you have to provide an  
external source of power.

thanks,

-jon

"There are no differences but differences of degree between different  
degrees
of difference and no difference."
- James, William. "Subjective Effects of Nitrous Oxide." Mind. 1882;  
Vol 7.

--- In 200e@yahoogroups.com, amnesia <amni56@...> wrote:
>
> 201e - 6      do you get the external power to plug in to the wall power 
> socket?

Yes, at least the one I have has the power cable.  It is essentially the middle boat from an 18 WLS.

> 201e - 6u     6-panel Unpowered Boat  ... this is just the box no 
> internal connections and no external power
> 
> sound simple but i read it both ways
>
I don't see this on the price list anymore but it sounds to me like an upper or lower boat for an 18 WLS.

  Eric

any news on this? I want one :-)
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