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Subject: RE: [motm] MOTM compatible module

From: "Tentochi" <tentochi@...>
Date: 2000-08-22

This is an incredible idea!!! IT would overlap 2 sets of rails. I am
surprised no one has thought of this before. The electronics are fairly
small compared to all of the room needed for the knobs. This still makes it
4U total, but it is laid out VERY intuitively. Bravo Steve!!! This would
leave some room for some other stuff too since another row would be opened
up--like all of the switches on the right could be moved between the knobs
and jacks since the extra row is now available.

--Shemp

> -----Original Message-----
> From: steve@... [mailto:steve@...]
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 1:11 PM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [motm] MOTM compatible module
>
>
> How about making a 10U tall module with the proper
> screw holes in the middle so the module actually took
> up two rows tall, used the larger MOTM knobs, and kept
> the knobs in the desired "rows"??
>
> Steve
>
> > Hi Eric,
> >
> > The TCV is a "Time Control Voltage." It can shrink or
> stretch the envelope,
> > while keeping the relationship of the 15 knobs.
> >
> > The switch with the waveforms controls how the unit
> progresses from one
> > stage to the next. It is either linear, exponential,
> or stepped.
> >
> > The top switch (you didn't ask, but I thought I'd
> explain anyway) controls
> > the major mode of the module. "Loop only" (as someone
> guessed) configures
> > it
> > as a complex LFO. In "One shot" mode, the stages will
> progress once only;
> > the gate will not hold it in any sustain pattern but
> rather trigger the
> > module. The "Gated loop" is more like a standard
> gated ADSR, but the
> > sustain
> > portion can have a complex loop anywhere between
> stages 2 through 4 and 5
> > through 7. The "End gate" switch controls the
> behavior when the gate is
> > released. If the switch is up, the module will
> complete all stages in the
> > loop, otherwise it will immediately go to the final
> release time stage.
> >
> > Yes I agree about the minimum attack time. A goal is
> to get the attack
> > under
> > 1mS.
> >
> > Paul and I use different graphics tools and I know
> the font he uses, but I
> > don't have the exact one. I'm trying to make it look
> very close so when
> > it's
> > in a system, it's a natural addition. The knobs are
> smaller versions of the
> > ones he uses, but the mounting of the board is
> completely different. There
> > is no information on cost or kit availability yet.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: alt-mode [mailto:alt_mode@...]
> > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 6:21 AM
> > > To: motm@egroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [motm] MOTM compatible module
> > >
> > >
> > > Tony,
> > >
> > > Very cool indeed! Here's my comments:
> > > - It is kinda tightly packed. I'd be willing to go
> for 6 stages
> > > to get more room.
> > > - I do like the pairing of the time and level
> controls
> > > - I don't think the individual stage LEDs are very
> useful. If
> > > you need a LED, put
> > > one on the output so it brightens in proportion to
> the signal.
> > > - I didn't get the TCV input. What's that?
> > > - I also don't get the switch on the lower right.
> I initially
> > > thought it was for
> > > exponential vs. linear but I don't get the
> relationship between
> > > the three choices.
> > > Maybe this is because I haven't used Casios...
> > > - The numbers around the knobs are OK but as I said
> above,
> > > reducing the number of
> > > stages might make it look neater.
> > > - An absolutely crucial element for such an EG is
> the minimum
> > > attack time. I hope
> > > this is in the very few ms range!
> > > - Are you planning to use the same mechanical stuff
> as Paul (e.g.
> > > panels, paint,
> > > graphics, etc.)?
> > >
> > > It would be nice to see the high quality MOTM form
> factor used in
> > > more compatible
> > > modules. It would be a nice to have high quality
> competition to the
> > > Doepfer/Analogue Systems/Analogue Solutions and
> > > Paia/Wiard/Blacet/FracRac stuff. I
> > > hope there are others out there, either offered
> through Paul or
> > otherwise!
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > --- Tony Karavidas <tony@...>
> wrote:
> > > > Hi group,
> > > >
> > > > It seems like this is "sneak peek" week, but it
> truly is a
> > > coincidence. This
> > > > image is my first graphic attempt and I was
> interested in your
> > feedback.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.encoreelectronics.com/motm/ENVGEN2.JPG
> > > >
> > > > It has 5 toggle switches along the right side
> (which aren't
> > > drawn in, there
> > > > are just white holes in place). They perform
> various functions
> > > and I'm not
> > > > going to explain them in hopes the text and
> graphics can do it
> > > for me. If a
> > > > majority of you ask "what's that do" then I guess
> the image WILL need
> > > > further explanation. I'm looking for feedback
> regarding the
> > > numbers around
> > > > the pots, the missing numbers, and if it looks ok
> without them,
> > > the lack of
> > > > the stage indication (I thought there were too
> many numbers
> > > cluttering up
> > > > the panel as it is). Maybe there should be no
> numbers around
> > > the pots, but
> > > > SHOULD be numbers for each of the stages. Is the
> graphic near the
> > bottom
> > > > useful? Is it in the way? Stuff like that.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, this module is quite real, and I think
> will be a good
> > > addition to
> > > > Paul's lineup. A 4 stage ADSR is not enough for
> me.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Tony Karavidas
> > > > Encore Electronics
> > > >
> > > > http://www.encoreelectronics.com
> > > >
> > > > Designers of "The best MIDI to CV converter on
> the planet."
> > > -Keyboard Oct.
> > > > 1997
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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