I disagree with the "reasonable" part--let this be a flagship module. The
design doesn't preclude using this as a stand-alone unit, so there are other
markets (outside modular folks) who will be interested. Understand that this
will occupy a price point between the cheaper vocoders (Sky and MAM e.g.)
and the massively expensive (EMS and including the "vintage" market).
As far as attracting new users, just having this module available, even in
limited quantities (enough so that Paul has a chance of recouping his
investments) will attract folks to the MOTM stable, even if they can't
afford it (yet). Anyone checking it out will certainly see the other, highly
attractive modules available. Not that it's analogous, but I have an easier
time selling someone a $200,000 web site by showing them a $2 million dollar
one, even when I explain thoroughly that they're not going to get nearly as
much stuff. They see that it's about value (price to features)
Once again, I don't want to sacrifice flexibility to meet an inexpensive
price point. This is a highly specialized unit that's unlike any of the
other modules. Any given system won't suffer without it (it's not as if it
were a $2000 VCO and the only one available for the system), but it will
please those who want a Bentley over a Bonneville (not knocking
Bonnevilles--I love Bonnevilles).
One can always buy a MAM vocoder to use with the MOTM system... Hell, right
now I'm using a Zoom 1201!
David.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan Hunsicker [mailto:nate@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:52 AM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: RE: [motm] Prepare to be amazed
>
>
> I'd be willing to put a deposit towards r&d on this project, however what
> is the final price goal? Last I heard was around $1200? (my memory is not
> very good) Add $500 worth of patch points and we're nearing $2000. I
> believe in MOTM and that Paul can build the king of all vocoders, I just
> want to make sure that we don't decide to build a huge, feature
> rich module
> (or modules) that would'nt be realistic for most of us to own. I'm trying
> to consider it from Paul's perspective. The only analog vocoder I know of
> in production today is the SKY Vocoder, it's a 12 band analog vocoder with
> a built in patchable triangle wave osc., it retails for $750 and from what
> I understand, it's a big seller. I'd love to see MOTM's vocoder
> packed with
> features, but lets try to keep the price in a somewhat
> reasonable level so
> we can attract new customers to the MOTM "family" Just a thought... -Nate
>
>
> PS: even if this does become the $2000 MOTM vocoder, I'll probably find
> the $$$ to buy one anyway. Food and shelter aren't that important :)
>
>
>
>
>
> >Let's just make sure we make it worth your while and make it the
> best damn
> >
> >vocoder out there. Even if you have to take deposits at some point... I'd
> >
> >hate to look at it a couple years from now, trying to figure out how to
> >
> >modify it to do more...
> >
> >
> >
> >I'm starting to set the $$ aside now.
> >
> >
> >
> >David.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >
> >> From: Dave Bradley [mailto:daveb@...]
> >
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:07 AM
> >
> >> To: motm@egroups.com
> >
> >> Subject: RE: [motm] Prepare to be amazed
> >
> >>
> >
> >>
> >
> >> How about the possibility of adding headers with jumpers, so you could
> >
> >> customize your vocoder with external patch points by replacing
> >
> >> the jumpered
> >
> >> headers with ones to external normalled jacks? Best of both worlds.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Moe
> >
> >>
> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> >> > From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...]
> >
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:59 AM
> >
> >> > To: motm@egroups.com
> >
> >> > Subject: Re: [motm] Prepare to be amazed
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > I depends if there is room, and then not having nice Switchcraft
> >
> >> > jacks since
> >
> >> > you would
> >
> >> > want these pcb mounted. I figure having this adds $500 to the
> >
> >> > retail price.
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Paul S.
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >> > From: "Dave Bradley" <daveb@...>
> >
> >> > To: <motm@egroups.com>
> >
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:42 AM
> >
> >> > Subject: RE: [motm] Prepare to be amazed
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > > You can do tricks like this if the detector section outputs
> >
> >> are brought
> >
> >> > out
> >
> >> > > to patch points, so you can swap control of bands around, run
> >
> >> > them through
> >
> >> > > inverters, etc. Yes, it's very useful for going beyond the standard
> >
> >> > vocoding
> >
> >> > > effects. It's a feature I'd definitely want in a high end
> >
> >> > machine if I was
> >
> >> > > to purchase one.
> >
> >> > >
> >
> >> > > Dave Bradley
> >
> >> > > Principal Software Engineer
> >
> >> > > Engineering Animation, Inc.
> >
> >> > > daveb@...
> >
> >> > >
> >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> >> > > > From: Thomas Hudson [mailto:thudson@...]
> >
> >> > > > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 9:36 PM
> >
> >> > > > To: motm@egroups.com
> >
> >> > > > Subject: Re: [motm] Prepare to be amazed
> >
> >> > > >
> >
> >> > > >
> >
> >> > > >
> >
> >> > > > I have a question concerning vocoders. It would seem to
> >
> >> > > > be useful to have the opposite effect of a vocoder. Instead
> >
> >> > > > of boosting the bands where the carrier is strongest,
> >
> >> > > > attenuating these bands to make room in the overall
> >
> >> > > > mix for something like vocals.
> >
> >> > > >
> >
> >> > > > Do highend vocoders have this feature, or is it even
> >
> >> > > > something that would be useful?
> >
> >> > > >
> >
> >> > > > Tomy
> >
> >> > >
> >
> >> > >
> >
> >> > >
> >
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