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Subject: Re: [motm] [Semi-OT] MP3ing MOTM music

From: "Paul Wagorn \(Worldbid\)" <pwagorn@...>
Date: 2000-05-27

Hi Christopher:

I've found that although encoding a track to mp3 doesn't do ∗too∗ much
damage to it,
a lot of detail (esp in the high end) is lost. This would show itself
especially on subtle sounds
(READ: MOTM) Depending on the encoding bitrate (I usually do 128),
sometimes the high end sounds a little saturated, or in extreme cases, I get
phasing / flanging.

That being said, sometimes I like my music BETTER after it's been encoded.
I think that encoding
music does some sort of black magic multi-band compression, and that
combined with a little high-end
saturation gives some of my tracks a really neat sound.

I ∗can∗ tell a difference. It doesn't sound "right" if you are comparing
it to the original, but it's really
not that bad in most cases. If you buy a cd from mp3.com (BUY MINE, BUY
MINE!), it still sounds
very good. I have 2 of Bald Bastard's cd's (BUY HIS BUY HIS!)and I listen
to them all the time &
they sound like "cd quality". but, I bet if I compare them to the originals,
they won't quite sound the same.

Anyways, the purpose of mp3's for me is to let the world hear my music
through the net, and I think for
that purpose, it's great. When I send demos or masters off to Labels, I
wouldn't send an mp3. I always
send cd's....

I Hope that this kind of answered your question...?

-paul
http://mp3.com/puffboy (for music)
http://puffboy.com (for pics, etc)
(who also runs the Analogue heaven Radio Station on mp3.com
http://mp3.com/stations/ah)




----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Jeris" <cjeris@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 3:48 PM
Subject: [motm] [Semi-OT] MP3ing MOTM music


> This question is especially for Bald Bastard and Puffboy, on account of
> I've listened through most of their stuff on MP3.com. Makes great coding
> music. (I've only listened at work so far because I don't have a real net
> connection at home.)
>
> Anyway - How close do your MP3s sound to what you think of as your
> "real" track? I have a roommate who has encoded much of his music as MP3
> and he spends a great deal of time delicately tweaking the encoder to get
> exactly the sound he wants. Indeed, when he first started using it, the
> results didn't sound that much better than a high-bandwidth RealAudio.
> Now, the MP3s sound good, but since the format was developed to encode pop
> with vocals and such, I just wonder - how good do _you_ think it
> sounds? Does it faithfully reproduce the special qualities of the MOTM?
> Do you have to work hard to get the sound?
>
> I'm also aware that, if it doesn't sound right, that is likely because I'm
> using a workstation PC with a piece of junk motherboard sound chip; the
> few MP3s I've downloaded at home sound rather cleaner on that machine, and
> it's only got a thirty-dollar Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI.
>
> (The roommate in question is Loren Wilson, and his music is at
> http://loren.uchicago.edu/. A track of ours appeared on Analogue Heaven
> Tape Compilation 4 as Coaster: $hkpkax_python. He hasn't used my MOTM for
> anything yet, but he does share our affection for sophisticated synths -
> right now he's trying to decrypt his Yamaha FS1R.)
>
> peace,
> Chris Jeris
>
>
>
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