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Subject: Re: [motm] Monkee stuff & EM history

From: jwbarlow@...
Date: 2000-04-27

First, did anyone hear the little (10 minute) bit about Dave Borden & Mother
Mallard today on All Things Considered? "First all electronic band in 1969."
Early "work" with Bob Moog, helping to "idiot proof the machines," much as
Larry and I do now for MOTM. Nice little mention about the resurgence of
interest in analog.

In a message dated 4/26/2000 6:59:33 AM, aardvark-mi@... writes:

>In his book 'A Monkeys Tale', author Eric Lefcowitz mentions that Mickey
>Dolenz played "the first Moog sythesizer on a pop" album. The song was
>called 'Daily Nightly' recorded in 1967... I found a picture (attached)
>of Mickey with his Moog in the Monkeys boxed set booklet... We know that
>the Monkeys didn't record the first Moog on an album but on a 'pop' album,
>could be!!!

>Al (still like the Monkeys) Wagner


Wow! The Monkees and Wagner in the same sentence <g>! Actually, I
occasionally still like the Monkees as well, that won't surprise anyone I
guess. And thanks for the pic, Al. I guess we really do have to thank Dolenz
for the first pop use (still not convinced about rock) in 67 (really quite
early) as well as taking Hendrix (the other JH) out on the first US tour
opening for The Monkees -- albeit abbreviated.


In a message dated 4/26/2000 11:48:44 AM, ceres@... writes:

>>> BTW, Harry Shearer had once mentioned on his radio show, that The
>Monkees had
>>> the first rock record use of a Moog -- this can't be literally true,
>but I
>>> did (do) wonder when "they" used one.
>>
>>Had to look that one up. The song was Daily/Nightly.
>>Recorded June 19,1967. A video clip was also made
>>and originally aired January 8, 1968.
>
>The song is on their fourth album, 'Pisces Aquarius Capricorn & Jones,
>ltd.'. The album also includes the song "Star Collector" which has Paul
>Beaver playing the Moog (in a more "musicianly" manner - I actually prefer
>Dolenz's "amateur-twisting-knobs" performance on "Daily Nightly"). I'm
>not
>sure which of the two songs was recorded first.
>
>To the best of my knowledge, that ∗is∗ the first usage of any
>commercially-manufactured (Moog or otherwise) synthesizer on a pop/rock
>record. The 50 Foot Hose album was recorded around the same time, but
>that
>was all homemade electronics (as were the electronics used by the United
>States of America, Silver Apples, etc.).


Very cool Doug! Thanks for looking this up! I'm more convinced of pop than
rock (and Harry Shearer may have said pop as well). It seems that there
would've been rock use of Moog with weirdoes like Zappa, Beefheart, Cale,
etc. all having records out, and all knowing about the Avante Garde in music.

As to your other references, I have to admit my ignorance here (big
surprise). 1) I don't know the 50 Foot Hose album (let alone how/what it was
recorded), 2) United States of America (?????), 3) I thought (probably just
assumed) that Silver Apples used a Buchla -- is this not true?

> -Doug
> ceres@...
>
>>I can still remember the video, pretty cool actually.
>>I think Dolenz was playing an early Moog system IIIp.
>>Or at least I think there were 3 portable cabinets. I
>>was only 10 at the time. It left a lasting impression on
>>me though. "Psychedelic"

And finally I've been meaning to respond to many of the film score and
historical EM things that were posted a week or two ago, but I wanted to add
something about one of my favorite EM albums which I've only seen once (local
library). In my memory, it was by Pierre Henry (maybe Schaeffer was there
too) from maybe around 1968. It was musique concrete (naturally) and was an
album length work where all the pieces were made from recordings of a saw, a
squeak of a door hinge, and a human sigh. Again this is all from memory, I
did tape the album, and last listened to the tape about 5 years ago, but now
I can't find it <boo hoo!>. I spent a lot of time looking for it and will
continue -- it may be called Hyperprism (now I'm really guessing). If anyone
recognizes this piece from my poor description, please let me know.

John (still looking for the tape ) Barlow