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Subject: RE: [motm] Delay Module.. Digital bad?

From: "Kevin Peek" <kpeek1@...>
Date: 2000-04-19

I must third the motion for an analog delay. I have used many, MXR, Boss
DM-2, DM-3, Memoryman.
All are different. Some are deeper, some are noisier, and some are darker. I
have found BIG differences within the same models depending on what the
serial number is.

There really is some difference in the sound of a digital delay. They
(digital delays) seem to sound more similar across brands and models. The
only difference I hear is in the sample bit (8 vs 12 vs 16).

The cool thing about analog delays is that you can use it like another
module or instrument. Kick the feedback up and you get a modulating pad type
sound. Sweep the rate to create weird noises. Its really great stuff. PLUS
analog seems warmer. I just happen to like the analog sound a lot. However I
do use digital sometimes too.

I would suggest getting some pedals and compare them. Experiment. That is
what its about.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tkacs, Ken [mailto:ken.tkacs@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 4:48 PM
To: ''
Subject: RE: [motm] Delay Module.. Digital bad?

Analog and digital delays are really two different animals. One of each
would be cool!

But there's a particular sound to an analog delay that's kind of neat, and
the way the two sound while being modulated can be very distinctive. If you
haven't spent years using each, it's hard to describe the different
experiences of using them.

I don't know if it's ∗still∗ true of DDLs, but when they first came out,
they could not modulate the delay line NEARLY as deeply as an analog; analog
delays gave much deeper flanging effects, etc.

Normally you want longer and longer delays, but ironically, several of us on
this list are actually hoping for SHORTER delays--accurate in a range less
than 4 ms, so that we can do physical modeling!

So it's not that analog is good, digital is bad, etc. The point is (as
usual) that they are both DIFFERENT, but it sure is a helluva lot easier to
pick up a digital delay these days than an analog one. So you will tend to
find more people begging for an ADL. Me included. I have digital delays out
the wazoo; now I'm looking for an appropriate analog delay module for my
analog synthesizer.

-----Original Message-----
From: revtor@... [mailto:revtor@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April, 2000 4:40 PM
Subject: [motm] Delay Module.. Digital bad?

Ill second the wish for a delay module.
But I was wondering if it could be digital? I mean analog is nice but with
digital the delays can be longer with no signal degradation and maybe even
potentially cheaper. Maybe the digital delay cuts out some of the signal at

the low and high end? Could these delays be used for CV's as well as audio?

Why is everyone so desiring an analog delay? Anyway, as long as the delay
time and wet/dry controls are voltage controllable any delay is fine with
Plus Blacet and Moog already have analog delay boxes out, lets make a
one... Loong delays with a hold option, VC as many params as possible, maybe

be able to sync the delay to a clock or something like that too..
I was actually considering mounting a Boss delay pedal onto a MOTM panel
the MOTM knobs and stuff anyway...
Why is Digital Delay bad?
Why is analog Delay good?
food for threads..

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