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Subject: Re: Matrix Patching & Patch Storage

From: Doug Pearson <ceres@...>
Date: 2000-03-02

I could be wrong on some of this, since I don't have easy access to my
CS-15D and it's been a while since I've seen a plain CS-15 ...

At 07:38 AM 03/02/2000 -0600, "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@...> wrote:
>I wonder how that compares to my NON-preset CS-15. The CS-15 (sans) D is
>monophonic rather than duo-phonic.

Both CS-15 & CS-15D are mono-PHONIC, but they're both bi-TIMBRAL ...

>Cool synth 2 VCO, 2 mixers, 2 VCF, 2 VCA, 2 EG,

... because the two VCO->VCF->VCA/EG paths are parallel and independent of
each other (as opposed to, for instance, the 2xVCO 2xVCF MS-20 where both
VCO outputs are mixed together and go through the two filters, HFP & LPF,
in series). This would actually make a good MOTM patching exercise (in an
attempt to keep this vaguely on-topic) for someone who owns two each of
-300, -420, -800 & -110 (for the VCA): compare and contrast the
capabilities and sonic ranges of the two-oscillator monotimbral patch vs.
the one-oscillator bitimbral patch ...

... or do the two mixers on the CS-15 (not present on the CS-15D IIRC)
allow you to pan each VCO between each of the two VCF->VCA paths, as
opposed to the forced segregation of the two VCO's on the CS-15D?

>1 LFO, external audio in, glide circuit. Since the CS-15D was
>duo-phonic, I wonder if it had two of everything?

I'm 99% certain that the guts of both CS-15's are the same, and that the
only difference is that one of the timbres (i.e. VCO->VCF->VCA/EG path) has
no control knobs. Instead, that part of the front panel has two rows of
preset buttons, one for the timbre with control knobs (which are disabled
for every preset except the "manual" one), and one for the timbre without
any knobs.

>Someone mentioned how
>cool it would be to substitute controls for one of the preset boards. I
>agree.

Which would, I believe, essentially convert it into a normal CS-15 with
presets.

>No patch cords on this one, but it has switches, to route and
>select things like which EG to which VCF, VCA, etc.

Those Yamaha CS- synths DO have very nice modulation routing capabilities
(love 'em on my CS-40M! Which, BTW, I made a patch sheet for in Visio a
couple years ago).

>Unfortunately, the CS-15 is plagued by the damn V/Hz VCO control
>standard.

Works great with Korg MS- synths!

>I have a link to a photo of one if anyone is interested in
>seeing a CS-15 (actually my CS-15).

I'd like to. Sorry I don't have any available pics of the CS-15D.

-Doug
ceres@...