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The point, which you've totally missed, is that in recognition of the fact
that you don't want to have 2 sets of documentation and 2 sets of boards to
keep track of, we're asking, "hey, can you deliver stuffed euro boards sans
pots, jacks, and panels to save us from having to go through the hassle and
hazard of desoldering pots, jacks, and switches, and paying for panels and
jacks we don't need?"

Check the archives, I did this already. I sold ∗10∗ RR E350s versions
assembled and maybe like 12-14 board sets of the E340/E350 combined. I sold
around 8-10 sets of the E560/E580 DIY board sets. That's it!

I think I've gotten my fill of it, and I'm sure I'm not alone. And if
anyone hasn't, there are Bridechamber, Oakley, and others providing 5U
thru-hole DIY pcbs. Believe me, I'd RATHER have an fully assembled 5U
MOTM-355 Morphing Dual LFO. HOWEVER, knowing that you have your hands full
developing and shipping modules for the Euro market, I'm asking, what's the
MINIMUM you can do that will make most of your old 5U customers happier than
they are now?

It's not that much of an effort (I will say same effort and LESS hassle) to
take a known working Euro schematic and lay it out for 5U/MU. Maybe 2 8 hour
sessions and then send Scott the locations and have him make me panels. Once
I have the 2 stuffed boards (the jacks are on their own board) it would take
me 8 minutes per module to assemble, test and put in the box. Call it 7 per
hour. So in 1 8 hour session on a weekend that is ALL 50 modules per format.
1 full weekend end = 100 modules, sitting in the boxes ready to go out on
Monday. But even if that time doubles, it's 2 weekends and done.

We WANT to buy your new modules. In a perfect world, you'd deliver them in
5U assembled. The current reality requires buying an assembled euro module,
then disassembling it, making a custom panel, and wiring it up. Is there a
workable middle ground?

See above.

Now, can you ∗GET∗ that I and others don't care about the DIY aspect? In
fact, I want to reduce the amount of DIY that's currently required to adapt
one of your euro modules to 5U!

You wouldn't need to if the Kickstarter thing works.

The crucial question: would there be significant setup cost to run off 40-50
euro pcbs sans pots, jacks, and switches, and would that make testing the
boards too difficult? If not, great, as it would save us the time and
hazard of desoldering the pots, jacks, and switches.

I would rather just do it properly and use the 5U format, with the correct
knobs, grid spacing, etc. and cover BOTH sets of people: DIYer and
non-DIYers. Both get assembled modules quickly.

If the 'group message' is that we desire new modules in a timely manner and
the DIY aspect is not the #1 factor, then what is wrong with the Kickstarter
approach? OK, you need an Amazon account (free and the do NOT spam). That's
about it. I've used it to buy stuff maybe 8 times so far. Painless.

Paul S.