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Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM 650

From: James Elliott <johans121@...>
Date: 2010-02-18

>>>>I send CC1 to Aux 1 all the time, that's all I use it for. I'm using it
in monophonic mode, perhaps the problem happens when using the 650 as amulti-channel converter.


I've posted a detailed scenario in the past, I will do so again to ensure that this issue isn't down played. Personally, I think it is serious. If it is a problem with my specific 650, WONDERFUL, I'll just send it back to Paul to get it fixed/replaced. Else, it is a BUG that probably won't be fixed and not an unimplemented feature ('cause the other aux outputs work just fine). I'm leaning towards bug because Paul never said, "you know what, I can't replicate that on mine, maybe you should send yours in for replacement", especially because I've brought this up many times (since 2007).

-Jim



> General Problem: My 650 quits responding to midi when I send midi
cc's to control aux1. When I say quit responding I mean that the outputjacks do not transmit a signal - the midi LED still responds to midi.One of two things happens once the 650 is in this state.
>
>
1) If I perform the following actions, then the 650 begins to respondto midi again (however it will lock up again if I send midi cc's toaux1)
> -Press "ESC"
> -Scroll to, and then select, "Module Actions"
> -Scroll to, and then select, "Load Patch"
> -and finally, load a patch
>
> 2) If I don't follow the steps above, I get various assert errors depending on different buttons that I press
> -L612: I get this error when I press "Enter" after a lockup
> -L2039: When I press "Inc" after a lockup
> -L2167: When I press "dec" after a lockup
>
-L548: First I press "ESC", which allows me to scroll through the toplevel menu, then press "Enter" on any of the second level menu items
>
> My 650 is setup as follows:
> -Global options:
> 1) Voice Type - 1/1/1/1
> 2) CtrlMidi Chan - 1
> 3) Trig PWM - 10ms
> 4) VelScale - 8 Volts
> 5) Backlight - Auto
> 6) TunTable - 12 Tone
> 7) Note Inv - Off
> 8) Priority - LastNote
> 9) Clock - Internal
> 10) IClk BPM - 120.0
> 11) Midi Clk - Transmit
> 12) Patch Rx - Disabled (I also tried enabled, whatever that does?)
> 13) SysexSys ID=Global
>
> -VoiceGroup 1 Settings:
> 1) VG1 Midi Chan - 1
> 2) VG1 Allc - Solo
> 3) VG1Glide - Off
> 4) VG1PBend - 24
> 5) VG1GType - Normal
> 6) VG1 V/T - Velocity
> 7) VG1 Aux - CC12 (Tried others as well with the same issue resulting)
> 8) VG1AuxSc - 8 Volts
>
>
-VoiceGroups 2 - 4 are set up exactly like group 1 except that thePBends are set to 0, and the Aux Midi CC's are set to different values(13, 14, 15).
>
> -Both Arps are turned off.
>
> ∗∗This also happens in other other voice modes as well 4/poly1, 4/poly2, 2/2/poly1, etc.......


From: Jeff Laity <synthetic@...>
To: MOTM List <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, February 17, 2010 1:07:35 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM 650

 

I send CC1 to Aux 1 all the time, that's all I use it for. I'm using it in monophonic mode, perhaps the problem happens when using the 650 as a multi-channel converter. 


I thought that someone was re-writing the code for the 650? 

On Feb 16, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Paul Schreiber wrote:

 

a) CC messages are in the menu tree, but ∗not∗ implemented in the code. It's not a "bug", it's a feature that is/was not implemented.

 
b) external 'analog clock' (not MIDI clock) to synch the arpeggiators is flakey. It seems to work OK at lower speeds, say < 4Hz. MIDI clock is fine.
 
If anyone wishes a refund, just return the unit and I'll write a check. My expectations for Jeffrey fixing this is low.
 
Paul S.
 
In brief, the two that I experience are:
1) Sending cc's to one of the aux outputs (aux 1, me thinks) causes the 650 to crash
2) Sending the external clock input a signal causes it to crash

 

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