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motm@yahoogroups.com, "argitoth" <argitoth@...> wrote:
>
> WARNING: a bit of a rant, sorry.
>
> Hey Paul, I have another dilemma about my order. I'm posting a rant on
> the MOTM forum hehehe... I'd like you to ship the order soon, but I'm
> getting more and more frustrated with knowing what filter I ∗really∗
> want. I might want to change my order a little bit. Sorry!
>
> I was only getting the 420 because you said it was easy to build. Part
> of my frustration is that, in my opinon, none of the audio demos
> reveal how one filter sets itself apart from another filter. One
> problem is that all the filters have audio demos of completely
> different context (different modulation, different inputs, etc.). If I
> want to hear a filter's character, I give it a low-pitch saw wave,
> sweep the cutoff, and set the resonance to near-max and max. How a
> filter self-oscillates and how a filter overdrives shows its
> individual character, in my opinion.
>
> Ok, so I've explained to you my frustration. Now we can start the
> process of solving this frustration. First of all, in the analog
> world, my favorite filter that I've owned so far is the Doepfer A-106-
> 1 Xtreme Filter. It can sound ugly, harsh, distorted, crazy, and
> that's just how I like it. I also like my Analogue Systems RS-110
> filter. The RS-110 is everything that the A-106-1 is not. It can sound
> clean and/or growly. I like how the filter reacts to near-self
> oscillation and high gain. I can provide audio demos to help you
> understand what I'm describing.
>
> Now that I said that, let me say this. Whichever filter I get, I
> really want to have the ability to do dual resonance peaks. Also, the
> filter must have at least two modes: Lowpass and something else. That
> means the 490 and 440 are out as it's only a lowpass. The 410 is out
> because it's only bandpass. There's nothing in the 480's description
> that says it's harsh. The audio demos for the 480 are... kinda boring
> (in my opinion, sorry!). That means the 480 is out. That leaves the
> 420 and the 485. According to their descriptions, they are both on the
> harsher side. HOWEVER no audio demos SHOW IT (in my opinion). That's
> my frustration! The only way (in my opinion) to reveal a filter's
> harsh character is with near-max and max resonance with filter sweeps
> with a low-pitch saw at relatively high gain.
>
> I know what you're thinking. "If you haven't heard any audio demos you
> like, maybe these filters aren't for you, look elsewhere!" However, I
> want MOTM quality more than I want "my perfect filter." I'm willing to
> compromise. I don't NEED A-106-1's crazyness. In the future I'll
> definitely want to have all MOTM filters. But as for my FIRST
> purchase, I do want the MOTM filter with the harshest character.
>
> Finally, let me pose the questions:
>
> 1. What filter do you suggest for me?
> 2. Can you provide an audio demo with my specifications of the filter
> you suggest? --- low-pitch saw (two or three octaves below middle C)
> of relatively high gain, near-max and max resonance, filter sweeps in
> lowpass mode.
>