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Subject: Re: [motm] Vanilla versus double pecan ripple fudge

From: "Kenneth Elhardt" <elhardt@...>
Date: 2006-10-30

I'm a bit late to this thread but,

Wheaton writes:
>>Yep, synthesizers.com is boring, looks like MOTM is headed in that same
direction...... guess I'm the only one that has these thoughts, as noboday
else wants to voice their opinion if they are thinking the same, so I'll
drop it.<<

It's just that this stuff has already been discussed when Paul announced
kits would be dropped.


Adam Schabtach writes:
>>Seriously, I have _never_ heard one sound sample from the 510 that makes
me want to buy one. All I've heard is a lot of noisily trashed signals that
make me _not_ want to buy one.<<

I hear you. That can be a problem. But sometimes if you can ignore the
online demos and just figure out how it might sound if used differently,
that might help. Because I have a lot of other gear and VA synths that can
do somethings better than certain specialty modules, that doesn't encourage
me to buy some modules such as the 510. Reaktor had modules to do all the
math functions the 510 does and more, so I can patch up a 510, or 20 of
them, or with a bunch of extra functions. If so many alternatives didn't
exist in the market place, more people might need to buy those luxury
modules.

>>Speaking as a fickle buyer: some of us MOTM customers are actually
_using_our systems rather than expanding them indefinitely.<<

Exactly. It doesn't do me any good to spread out my purchases over many
years, buying a module a month. I'd never get anything accomplished until
years down the road.


Paul S. writes:
>>I'm 100% positive that when the Cloud Generator is released (with all
sorts of sound clips), many people will just shake their heads and go back
to the 300>>440>>190 patch. This is because many folks are in the Wendy
Carlos/ELP/Tomita/TD synth camp, and these modules don't "fit".<<

The thing is basic modules can be used for any type of sound. A module like
the Cloud Gen sounds too specific to a certain set of sounds. If a module
gets too focussed at doing one type of thing, then it becomes less useful
overall. Also, it takes away from people programming their own sounds from
scratch as the module itself is doing most of the work for you. That will
also lead to everybody making the same kinds of sounds.


Mike Marsh writes:
>>Epiphany! I think I am not after sounds that I have heard; I'm after
sounds that I've ∗never∗ heard before. Maybe I'm the anti-Elhart. That's
why I like the 510 and it's brethren so much...<<

I too go after sounds I haven't heard. But I want those sounds to be
musical and nice to listen to like Carlos, or spaced-out like Tomita. Too
often I'm hearing things that sound like some early 1950's lab experiment
made by attaching some crude electronic signal processors together.

-Elhardt