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Subject: RE: 800 single trigger vs multi trigger

From: "Dave Bradley" <daveb@...
Date: 1999-12-09

Actually, single trigger vs. multiple trigger is a feature of the keyboard
output, not the 800. The 800 (as "fixed" to provide full ADSR from a gate
only) will STILL respond to both gate and trigger if the signals are plugged
in. What actually happens is that the trigger jack overrides the internally
generated trigger as soon as you plug something in.

So here's how it works:

1. Gate only plugged in: 800 single triggers
2. Gate and trigger plugged in from single triggering kbd: 800 single
triggers
3. Gate and trigger plugged in from multi triggering kbd: 800 multi triggers

So it behaves just as you would want it to.

Dave Bradley
Principal Software Engineer
Engineering Animation, Inc.
daveb@...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric S. Crawley [mailto:esc@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 6:01 PM
> To: motm@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [motm] Upcoming MOTM-800 shortage
>
>
> From: "Eric S. Crawley" <esc@...>
>
> Larry, you have it correct. There is no retriggering of the EG as long as
> a key is held down (legato playing style). Moog and most Roland
> synths use
> this mode. The other term for this sort of thing is "single trigger" vs.
> "multiple trigger". Most ARPs implemented multiple trigger and the 2600
> allowed you to switch between the two, at least on the later 2600s AFAIK.
>
> I actually find single trigger mode more musically useful than multiple
> trigger, but I think that's from using it for so many years. A classic
> Rick Wakeman Minimoog patch is to set up the EG (er, "Contour Generator")
> on the filter with a longish decay and lots of resonance (I mean, Emphasis
> in Minimoog-speak) and wail away with a legato style. The filter sweeps
> over the notes that are played legato and retriggers when you lift up from
> the keyboard.
>
> Eric
>
> At 06:39 PM 12/8/99 -0600, J. Larry Hendry wrote:
> >From: "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@...>
> >
> >I have been thinking about this (a dangerous thing). I do not
> see how full
> >ADSR with gate only could work very well. I say this because I see that
> >gate stays high as long as ANY key is depressed. It would seem
> to me that
> >envelopes would not be re-triggered with a gate only ADSR unless the
> >playing technique provided that one key contact was indeed open
> prior to a
> >second one being closed.
> >
> >OTOH, I can see how this could be used as a style technique -- that the
> >retrigger on the envelope could be deliberately avoided or hit upon by
> >going in and out of a Legato playing style.
> >
>
> >