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Subject: Re: [motm] Re: Balancing amps for non-modular synths.

From: Matthew Hiscock <audio@...>
Date: 2006-05-09

That's what I need. And it's pretty cheap.

Or I guess I could diy one up, something like this:

http://1176neve.tripod.com/id6.html

I believe that one is just a step-up and not a step-down, which is really all I need.

On 9-May-06, at 4:46 PM, John Neilson wrote:


Would something like this do the trick for you?


They make an 8-channel version as well.


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Attenuate I can do already - I want to boost.

My sampler and Matrix are both set at unbalanced (-10) and I want to  
take them up to balanced (+4), like my modular.

I know the MOTM filters can handle unbalanced levels just fine, but  
I'd rather have the boosting before and not after the filtering. I  
also want to save the trouble of switching the -10/+4 switch on my  
soundcard.

Matthew

On 9-May-06, at 12:58 PM, Mike Marsh wrote:


Hey Matthew -

Do you have one of Paul's mixers?  You can use that to attenuate a
signal...

Mike

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Hiscock <audio@...> wrote:

Hi all,

Just wondering: what do you guys do to integrate synths that use
unbalanced output levels into your modular?

In my case I've got a sampler and a Oberheim Matrix-6r that make
me
adjust my input levels (I have a console-less studio) whenever I
want
to use them with my MOTM filters (not the 420 but the 410 and
soon
the 490).

I know there is a dotcom module that does this, but I imagine
that
this would be a fairly easy DIY project. And, naturally, there
are
lots of outboard balancing amps out there.

Is there anyone in a similar situation?

Matthew

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