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Subject: Re: [motm] Interest in a MOTM-102 module?

From: Paul Haneberg <phaneber@...>
Date: 2006-01-02

A lot of this discussion seems to center on the idea of using a VCO
generated sawtooth wave, putting it into an A to D converter and using the
output essentially as a counter. The accuracy of this particular scheme is
highly dependent on the sawtooth ramp being a perfectly straight line. Any
curvature in the ramp would cause the counter to count faster at some times
and slower at others as the slope varies.

A better way would be to start with the triangle wave, run it through a
series of rectifiers followed by capacitors to eliminate the DC component.
This would get you a frequency multiplied triangle wave. If you then
generate a pulse from the frequency multiplied triangle you can drive a
counter directly. The result should be more linear than the sawtooth
driving the A to D and you don't need a converter.

I would think you could run at least 8 rectifier/capacitor units in series.
That would get you a 256x pulse. You'd probably want to use high speed ops.
I'd like to see a frequency multiplied module using this idea. You could
probably get some strange outputs by running complex waveforms in the input
in place of a triangle.

Paul H.




----- Original Message -----
From: "jfm3" <jfm3@...>
To: "MOTM litserv" <motm@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: [motm] Interest in a MOTM-102 module?


> On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 09:59 -0500, Richard Brewster wrote:
>> This may be asking for a lot, but could it have a scale quantizer? It
>> is digital to begin with. How much extra would adding a major/minor
>> scale be? How about a 3-position toggle switch: major/minor/off.
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> I've been thinking a lot about how to do pitch CV quantizing. Being as
> it is the case that I'm new to the analog modular, and far more trained
> in software engineering than hardware, I probably have some of this
> wrong, so I ask that you forgive me for that, and take what I say
> without much authority.
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> For my purposes, pre-programmed scales would be useless. The long
> duration accuracy being discussed deeper in this thread turns me off
> too. What I've decided I really want is a VC sequencer that steps
> through it's stages not once every time a square CV drops, but smoothly
> as a saw shaped CV goes from zero all the way up. A triangle CV would
> make the sequencer go back and forth, etc.. With one of these, you
> could quantize pitch CVs into whatever other arbitrary set of pitch CVs
> you wanted.
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> I think the Milton sequencer can do this. I'm not sure how stable a
> Milton can hold it's output CV over time. It also seems like the CV out
> of the Milton is digital, and it's not clear to me what resolution that
> has. I have some Milton boards and preprogrammed PICs, but getting
> front panels and stuffing the boards properly is a little daunting given
> that I don't really completely know what I'm doing.
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> What's the output CV resolution on the Miniwave, and can you still get
> them?
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> (jfm3)
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