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Subject: RE: [motm] Re: mine and other peoples business..

From: "Paul Haneberg" <phaneber@...>
Date: 2005-12-21

I guess I’m Paul II so I’llchime in.

 

It would be nearly impossible to puttogether the sort of projection you suggest.

Why?

Because so many parts arecommon to more than one module.

For instance the same knobs and jacks areused on all modules and are always purchased in large quantities.

Semiconductors may be common to severalmodules, or may be unique to one.

Sometimes we might buy 1000 of a givensemi, other times it might be 25. It depends on the total demand for that part in all MOTM modules, not justone.

And that demand changes over time, so thecost of producing each module varies.

 

Paul S. has very cleverly standardized asmany parts as possible.

 

So the question is what is unique to agive module?  What parts are notstandard?

 

The panel and PCB are always unique.  Also unique are the soft costs, such asPaul’s time to do the design, PCB layout etc.

 

The PCB is not as big of an issue as thepanel.

 

Stooge Moe and I are working very hard toput together a new paradigm for making panels.  (How I hate that word!)

 

At the present time, the break point forhaving panels made at a reasonable cost is 50.  We would like to lower that break pointas much as possible and even get it down to 1.  If we succeed, the cost of a custom madeStooge Panel will drop significantly.

The number of a given module that Paul S.must sell to make a profit will also drop somewhat.

 

But Paul S. must still sell a minimumnumber in order to recoup his design costs. So the break point will never dropbelow a certain minimum.

 

Paul H.  (akaPaul II)  (aka Stooge Paul)

 

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: motm@yahoogroups.com[mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of SteveMaietta
Sent:
Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:11 PM
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [motm] Re: mine and otherpeoples business..

 

Paul, keep up the good work. .    It's-GREAT- work!!

 

 

So obviously if you sell 100 of a module its aloteasier to stomach than if you think only 10 will sell.  Is there (maybePaul II can chime in here) a way to decently accurately gague the cost permodule at a certain # of units sold?  So lets say you introduce an ideafor a module "XFG Allterrain LFO"  Its the wackiest by far, whoknows how many will sell.  Now lets say you want a show of hands who wouldbuy it by asking for $150 down payment.  Is there a way to chart thefinal price of the module on a module by module basis, or say in groups often?  "If I sell 100 theyre going to be $175 ea, if I sell 75 theyregoing to be $200, If I sell 25 theyre going to be $350 ea..  ?  Or, "Okay guys 35 people have put deposits down, theyre currently ataround $300 ea, but if I can get 15 more people to put $150 down, then theyregoing to be $275" 

 

I know you dont like taking money and getting bitchedat, totally understandable, and this will be more work, but it might be a wayof getting modules going on a demand basis..  maybe it could be used forthose modules "in the pipeline" (500 series,)?  any thoughts?

 

 

 

happy holidays!

 

Any info leaks about the Frack modules??  prelimsneak peeks?

 

~Steve

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