Does my limited capacity for intelligent thought deceive me, or is Paul
H making the case for a better way to handle the V-Drum pads than a
V-Drum controller? Frankly, I do not have the h/w design expertise to
even go near a project of that complexity.
And it sounds like my application is poles apart from Paul H's. I am an
improvising performance based musician who virtually never records the
stuff I do. My work has sometimes been confused with performance art,
rather than a concert in the strictest sense. I need something that
will allow me to trigger a variety of patches from a variety of pads in
real time.
Currently the technology that seems to be recommended is Pad to MIDI to
CV (assuming that I can split MIDI notes onto a variety of CV/triggers
etc). Tanking MIDI altogether has a certain conceptual elegance. But
the MIDI step does allow for all kinds of control freakyness!
PLL, BFG
Paul Haneberg wrote:
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> I have a lot of complaints with the way V-Drums do Midi.
> When I record V-drums I record the midi stream, but I also record each
> pad to its own audio channel.
> When I go to edit, I make multiple copies of the midi track, because the
> midi track has so much undocumented junk that I often can't tell which
> drum is which. So I compare the timing of the midi hits with the audio
> track for each drum and edit till I have a separate midi track for each
> drum. Then I put them all back together into one midi track.
> Then I either feed that back into the V-Drums or I use BFD (which sound
> far more natural.)
> Usually I end up using mostly BFD stuff, but mixing in some V-Drum,
> particularly on the kick.
>
> This is all very time consuming, but I like the result. Even when
> recording real drums I often will augment them with V-Drum samples.
> Usually I use sound replacer for that, but sometimes I'll EQ and gate a
> drum track till I have one drum pretty well isolated, then I feed the
> audio signal into the one of the Aux inputs on the V-Drum head.
>
> This give me a midi signal, which I then edit. (The V-Drum head needs
> to be adjusted to treat the audio signal with the right amount of
> sensitivity and to minimize multiple triggers.) Then I use it to
> trigger something else such as BFD.
>
> There ought to be a better way, but I haven't found it yet.
>
> Paul Haneberg
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: motm@yahoogroups.com [mailto:motm@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Greg Amann
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 9:00 AM
> To: motm@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [motm] V-Drums with modulars Redux
>
> It sure has a certain romance to tank MIDI entirely and trigger the
> modular from the V-Drums directly. It also sounds like solving the
> technical issues to get it to work in a performance setting would
> consume A LOT of time and money and, in the end, be re-inventing the
> wheel that Roland has spent years perfecting. I assume that Paul
> agrees with this since his silence after my original post was
> deafening. ;-)
>
> So now the technical problem is this: drum brains allow you to
> transmit any MIDI note you want, but they do not allow you to transmit
> the various pads on various MIDI channels. So I will need a MIDI to
> CV converter that allows me to split the MIDI stream based on MIDI
> notes. Will the MOTM-650 allow me to send MIDI note "x" to CV1 and
> MIDI note "y" to CV2 etc. when "x" and "y" are on the same MIDI channel?
>
> PLL, BFG
>
> PS: When does the MOTM-650 begin shipping? I ask this out of
> curiousity with no intent to torture poor 'ol Pauly.
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