A reasoned post, indeed. That is why I objected to the original - not
the content per se, but it's potential to turn a quiet oasis into a
bombed out hulk :)
The CD idea is great! I would contribute and buy!
Mike
--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, Larry David <ldavid777@s...> wrote:
>
> On May 31, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Mike Marsh wrote:
>
> > I agree. This is inappropriate.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > --- In motm@yahoogroups.com, mbedtom@a... wrote:
> >> In a message dated 5/30/2005 10:54:50 PM Central Standard Time,
> >> elhardt@a... writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Art or laughter don't benefit survival either. Evolution is a
> >>> mostly a
> >>> fraud, and many are moving away from it.
> >>>
> >>> -Elhardt
> >>>
> >>> "a superior intelligence has guided the development of man in a
> >>> definiate
> >>> direction" - Alfred Wallace, Darwin's coauthor and simultaneous
> >>> inventor of
> >>> evolution by natural selection.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Politics and religion are forbidden subjects on this list for obvious
> >> reasons. We live in a pluralistic society with people holding many
> >> points of view.
> >> However, this list is not the appropriate venue for the display
of our
> >> political or theological orientation.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >> Tom Farrand
> >>
>
> I think most of us see the practicality of limiting the discussion on
> this list to MOTM - or at least to synth related things in general,
> like the patch book idea, or analog synth CD idea Elhardt mentioned. I
> have been thankful over the years that the discussions here have
> remained mature and civil, unlike every other list I have read. I
> suspect there is as much diversity of ideas and tastes here as
> elsewhere, but for whatever reason, we have maintained a great
> atmosphere for discussion, imo. Maybe we are a smaller group, or older
> on average than say, AH - whatever; as long as we can keep it going. I
> will say one thing though, in hopes of furthering the tolerance of the
> plurality of ideas we find among us - as a wise man once said, "take
> the log out of your own eye, before you help your friend take the speck
> out his", which is a slight paraphrase, for those of you who know the
> reference. To wit, here is the original quote from Elhardt, who was
> quoting someone else (I deleted that original post and don't remember
> who it was):
>
>
> >> There have, for instance, been studies that show that music causes
> >> activity in the emotional centers of the brain in newborns. This is
> >> somewhat perplexing, because it would seem to indicate that there is
> >> a survival benefit attached to having an emotional response to
music,
> >> (or else why would we have evolved it?)<<
>
> Art or laughter don't benefit survival either. Evolution is a mostly a
> fraud, and many are moving away from it.
>
> -Elhardt
>
>
> I find it interesting that no one responded to that original post
> saying that it was inappropriate to talk about evolution; or more
> specifically, to imply that of course Darwinism is true and accepted by
> all. I can only guess that it was because most of us agree with that
> assumption - or at least have a blind spot and don't see such a claim
> the same way we see Elhardt's. Hence the log in some of our eyes,
> perhaps. I personally almost responded to the original post with
> something like Tom's response to Elhardt's, reminding the poster that
> not everyone here has the same assumptions about evolution, but thought
> it better not to say anything, figuring that would be the end of it,
> and such things come up so rarely that it would be better that way.
> Anyway I'll stop using BW for that - just thought it might be helpful
> since the maturity level here suggests to me that we may be able to
> receive constructive criticism. :)
>
> On topic, I think Elhardt's idea of an analog synth CD, with
> contributions by people who do the kind of music he was talking about
> would be great. I like the "bug music" too - like Robert Rich's
> Bestiary - I can listen to that CD over and over and not tire of it.
> But my favorite electronic music is more traditional in style I guess -
> diatonic with identifiable structure, etc. I've been waiting for the
> Aaron Copland of my generation who composed for "synth orchestra", and
> he/she has yet to appear. Tomita or Carlos are about as close as I
> have found, and neither of them is exactly what I was hoping for.
> Anyway, I'd buy such a CD! :) (I'd even try to contribute something
> if I could...)
>
> Larry D.