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Subject: Re: [motm] Vocoder?

From: imorpheusl@...
Date: 2005-05-28

 I have 4 vocoders in my setup - an electrix warp factory (24 band), korg microkorg (8 band), novation k-station (12 band), and native instruments Vokator (up 1024 bands can be analyzed). 
     The warp factory has an "order" knob that allows you to change the number of BPFs, Q aka resonance, noise generator, a gender knob for formant shifting, and a built in oscillator with pitch control so you don't need an external source except for the formant input (your voice or whatever).
      The microkorg allows you to change the level of each of the 8 BPFs and do formant shifting. The synth engine sounds really nice too. Sounds better vocoding drums and such - I find that it just sounds better for that application.
      The novation K-Station has very little as far as control over the vocoder except for a wet/dry mix. IMHO though the lack of controls makes up for the sound quality of the vocoder. Really good transient response esp. for drums.
     Native Instruments Vokator sounds good but since it is software based using it in real time (esp w/ 1024 freq bands to analyze) makes it pretty horrible for live performance. I use vokator more for the time strectching effects to get glitch/granular sounding samples. Really good for mangling but I have never used it to vocode my voice.
     To sum everything up the warp factory in my opinion sounds the best for vocals while the microkorg and K-station are really good for non-vocal vocoding. The microkorg and k-station sound allright with vocals but I find the warp factory is the most intelligible. Don't by Vokator for the vocoder - like I said it is great for sample mangling but not really funcional in real time vocoding situations. Hope this helps!
-Chaz
 
-----Original Message-----
From: ithaib <ithaib@...>
To: motm@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 26 May 2005 01:15:44 -0000
Subject: [motm] Vocoder?

Hello all,I want to purchase a vocoder, however there are not many being produced, and I don't want to get a vintage one... any suggestions anyone? (you ever thought of designing one Paul?)1. There is one that was made by MAM called the VF-11, which I can probably find somewhere although they are not producing it anymore. Has anyone tried this one out?2. Paia Vocoder, anyone?3. Electrix Warp Factory - this one I could probably try out somewhere since they just released it, but maybe someone has used one and would like to comment?4. DoepferI'll appreciate any insights, thanks,Ithai B.By the way, regarding the posts about how synthesizers are not appreciated or whatever it was, go see the new Star Wars movie, the score is amazing, and there are so many synth effects going on and sound design in general its a real treat.------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> <FONT COLOR="#000099">In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers.At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide!</FONT><A HREF="http://us.click.yahoo.com/c9hWNA/3MnJAA/n1hLAA/VpLolB/TM"><B>Click Here!</B></A>--------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links<∗> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/motm/<∗> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: motm-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<∗> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/