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Subject: Re: MOTM sound examples

From: "tontaub" <egroups@...>
Date: 2005-03-19

--- In motm@yahoogroups.com, "coyoteous" <antithesist@m...> wrote:
> Well, the reverb isn't cheezy and there's doesn't seem to be any
> frequency shifter! ;-) It's a good demo of the player (you?).

Naaaah - I wouldn't dare! ;-)
That's from Paul's 440 page: http://www.synthtech.com/motm440.html
A demo like you can find on almost every page on Paul's site.

> As a private reply to my
> message suggested: I wasn't slamming the demo makers, just some of the
> demos. The 440 is such a fine filter, its attributes come through
> loud and clear in this piece.

That's why I posted the direct link.

> There are some demos out there (not MOTM) that I know stop people
> from even considering certain modules/synths, because they are so
> bad.

Well - it's always a bit from both sides.
When you flip through the pages of the Oakley or Blacet sites you'll
find many demos without reverb, just a single VCO and the filter for
instance recorded as dry as dust. Clarifying what's the module about.
But there may be people who would like to hear the products in a more
musical context. OTOH there are manufacturers (present company
excluded of course) which tend to cover some weaknesses of their
products in cheesy reverb or loads of other FX - you name it.

> It was
> also suggested that a patch diagram for the demo sound would be
> nice

yup - sometimes I'd like to know that as well.
There are some demos by Robert Rich flying around or on Paul's site.
Some of them I just can't picture how the modules are patched and
what's the "critical path" in this patch - will say what parameters
need to be set carefully to achieve the particular characteristics of
that sound (while others can be set to taste).

> and the that demos don't have to be "musical," just single dry
> notes or phrases, etc.

IMHO the sound of a patch very much depends how it's used or played.
Single notes can sound very differently than an arpeggio and so on.
That's wether fast transients come into play or not etc.pp.

I understand your demand. Maybe somebody comes up with a purified
demo. I would do it if I owned a 440. And my 410s are still in their
envelopes (as kits. I know, shame on me).

Michael.