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Subject: Re: Yet MORE cabinet rail stuff

From: "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@...
Date: 1999-10-25

> From: JWBarlow@...
>
> It seems that gaps would only be a problem for those
> who don't use Larry's Magic Bus strip idea (since the
> bus itself would introduce a gap which would have to be
> dealt with) -- maybe we need to get a count on this to see
> if anyone other than Larry and I are interested in the bus.

Actually, I disagree with what I think you might be saying here. When Paul
talked about a wider flange, I interpreted that as more depth. If you take
two of Paul's rails now, and connect them back to back (same as when in the
rack) there is no gap between the panels. If I understood Paul right, the
new rails would have that same bend radius so that there would be no gap
when bolted back to back.

As far as the magic bus horizontal multiple strip, there will be no gap
there either. I plan to attach the rails slightly offset back to the side
of the horizontal strip so that the front of the horizontal strip will
actually be exactly even with the front of the MOTM panels without any gap.
I have tried this with Paul's existing strips and it works fine. If the
new ones are essentially the same bend but 12U instead of 10 without the
rack flanges, I am set.

> Strength probably won't be an issue with two of the
> welded rails bolted together (or bolted to Larry's Bus
> strip) since they are so dang strong anyway, and will
> be stronger if the mounting flange is made wider, and
> stronger still when bolted together.

I agree. No middle support will be needed.

> Here's a couple more thoughts:
>
> 1) THE SLOPED CABINET PROBLEM. I do seem to
> remember there being a fair interest in having a sloped
> cabinet like the Moog 35. I wonder if the rails could be
> offered in <gulp> two different styles: one a 90 degree
> bend and the other a sloped bend. Maybe there's
> another way around this.

I have actually thought about this some too. If you look at the actual
slope of the front, it is not a big issue. It appears to me that this
could easily be fixed by taking a router to the inside of the cabinet and
cutting the slight angle (number will vary by cabinet design) into the
inside of the cabinet wood.

> 2) JOINING THE RAILS TO THE CABINET SIDES. Possibly using largish (maybe
3")
> "L" brackets -- this might also provide a solution to mounting the top
and
> bottom rails in a sloped front cabinet configuration.
>
> It seems as though there is an interest with cabinet rails. I know I'll
be
> interested in seeing what Paul comes up with -- especially since I just
ran
> out of room for more MOTM with my rack rails, and when Paul sends that
> miscellaneous box out to me....
> John B.

Certainly, I am interested in the recent 12U cabinet rails that Paul
described. However, I still have plenty of room, so I am not in a hurry.
However, it sounds like two of the stooges may interested in similar
cabinet designs. My lower cabinet will be 2 rows 24U wide (sloped). My
top cabinet will be 1 row 24U wide (not sloped). Each will have one magic
bus 12 X 4 multiple. Additionally, I have two lower cabinets planned that
will sit side by side under the lower cabinet. These cabinets will be
standard 19" racks X 5 units. I can put rack effects of whatever in them
(or more MOTM with Paul's rack rails). Since they could be stacked to 10U
of standard 19" stuff, they could have stuff I use with my MOTM and stuff
that goes out without MOTM.

Larry H