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Subject: Re: [motm] Re: MOTM Mega-Mixer?? [OT]

From: media.nai@...
Date: 2002-09-25

At 3:28 AM +0000 09/20/02, coyoteous wrote:
>
>There is a stereo monitor section by the mono master and an
>"alt" (pre-fade) out over the L-R masters. Better yet would be
>monitoring with something from (or similar to products from) the
>link below:
>
>http://colemanaudio.com

I've seen those, and while they are inexpensive compared to similar
products for mastering, they are still pricey. It's a good option if you
are using a DAW without a mixer, but I need to use both. More importantly,
I am trying to do as much as I can in the least amount of space, so the
last thing I want to do is add another piece of gear.

>Sounds like you want "solo-in-place" or mute groups. I don't
>know if you'll find that in a small format analog mixer. I'll check
>the Midas again.

Yes, you can do that with the Venice 160. At this point, it looks like
that's the mixer I will buy. Even though the Crest seems to have adequate
monitor functions, there is no way I can consider it because the jacks are
on the opposite side of the controls. You simply cannot use it on a desk.

>Aren't AFL/PFL always mono? After Fader
>Listen / Pre Fader Listen - you want After Pan (Balance) Listen.

AFL are usually stereo for bus pairs.

>I suppose this makes the most sense for stereo channels.

Right, and all these boards have a number of stereo channel strips.
Unfortunately, the MixWizard can't monitor the stereo channels or the
busses in stereo. Which, imho, was a very bad design decision.

>On a mixer without "solo-in-place", I do this manually by muting the
>channels I don't want to hear. It is a PITA with lots of channels.

Not only is it a PITA, but monitoring should not effect the main outputs.
While you can rewind tape, it would be useless live.