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Subject: Re: MOTM Mega-Mixer?? [OT]

From: "coyoteous" <satori@...>
Date: 2002-09-19

--- In motm@y..., media.nai@r... wrote:
> The Crest doesn't have busses.

Well, a mixer without (summing) busses wouldn't be a mixer,
would it? :-) I count 13 (Mono, L, R, G1-G4 and 6 auxes). If you
mean subs, submasters or subGROUPS, there are 4. The Crest
is intended for live use, but don't discount the sonics - they are
top notch - way beyond the price point and it's built like a tank.

>The Crane is more like an overpriced AD
> converter with faders, than a production mixer.

We are talking about "high end" rack mixers and it does sound
real good. Perhaps the most analog sounding A/D available
(based on a proprietary dither scheme I heard was distributed
based on Fletcher/Munson rather than the typical noise shaping
curves).

>The Manley is extremely
> expensive and way too minimal.

Yeah, but it's a Manley, what did you expect? Hutch is an
absolutely brilliant designer.

> Right now, I am leaning towards the Allen & Heath four bus
>(WZ14:4:2+).

These are nice from my recollection, I almost bought one. I
ended up with a CAD (perhaps the biggest of all rack mixers)
that I eventually returned because of all of it's problems (mosty
mechanical, it sounded incredible - straight wire with gain and a
pinch of warmth - minimal caps in the signal path - lots of servo).

> The Midas 160 is another option...

Haven't heard it yet, people like the EQ a lot. It's probably a little
warmer than the Crest based on their bigger consoles.

Barry