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Subject: Re: FW: [motm] MOTM-800 EG

From: "mmarsh100" <mmarsh@...>
Date: 2002-05-10

Yes, I agree with Ken. I hate looking at scope screens and numbers
when it comes to this stuff. I use my ears first, and then my brain.

Unless there is some critical calibration that cannot be performed
by ear, I won't try to use DVM or scope.

Well, maybe that's a lie. I ∗do∗ like to see what effect a certain
tweak may have on the waveform, and for this I use a scope.

This is not to deny that there is an issue with 0 ATTACK settings on
the EG. Paul has already said there is. But it's not an issue that
affects me in the least. I seem to be able to find the texture and
timbre that I want every time I use the machine.

BIG CAVEAT - I don't do imitative synthesis. This application may
require more precise behavior at super fast attacks (though with a
modular, there are ∗many∗ ways to accomplish the same thing).

Mike

--- In motm@y..., "Tkacs, Ken" <ken.tkacs@j...> wrote:
>
> I had the same reaction to this ongoing thread.
>
> We're a group of people that sit around waxing poetic about the
strange
> behaviors and unique personalities of all this vintage gear, and
yet we're
> going to lose sleep over some unusual characteristic of this one
module
> that, as Paul pointed out, no one even noticed for four years?
>
> Maybe 15 years from now people will be trying to emulate the
action of the
> Rev2 MOTM-EG!
>
> Brian Eno once commented that when his synthesizers broke, he
didn't get
> them fixed, because 'NOW they start to have some PERSOINALITY.'
While that
> may be a little extreme for most of us, it's worth noting that odd
behavior
> is kind of a major part (I think) of why we're using this gear in
the first
> place, instead of perfect, flawless digital emulations that never
stray.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhaible [mailto:jhaible@d...]
>
> Just one thought:
> Not all of the "vintage" envelopes work as we would expect it,
either.
> Nobody complains about a Minimoog envelope going above its nominal
> peak level with fast repeated triggers. Most people consider it
a "feature",
> even though it is originally a design flaw.
> ....