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Subject: Re: [motm] MOTM-450 peek

From: media.nai@...
Date: 2002-04-16

At 3:35 PM +0000 04/15/02, jhaible@... wrote:
>
>You don't really need a pot for makeup gain, because you can do this
>with the 10 existing pots already. (All 10 pots up can be more than unity
>>gain, and as I said before, all pots at 7 is the same sound as all pots
>at >8, just the level is different. (I see that an extra gain knob, though
>>redundant, would further simplify A/B switching, but that's a bit of an
>>overkill IMO.)

A gain knob is not at all redundant because depending on the knob settings
and source material the unit cannot always be set for unity gain without
such a knob. An obvious example is any setting that has one knob all the
way up and another knob all the way down. Regardless, even when it is
possible, having to reset ten pots just to match the gain is a huge pain.

I can't think of a single graphic EQ that doesn't have one. Is adding a
gain knob to this design that difficult?? The panel space seems there.

>This MOTM module will be a circuit which I have first built for myself, and
>the funny thing is that I actually put my version into a 19" 1U enclosure
>to use it with either MOTM or in another rack with other gear. Maybe
>that's why I told Paul that a Bypass switch is crucial, and maybe it's in
>>there for just that reason. I just like to hear the difference (and it
>was >usefull to for creating the demo sounds, too. (;->) )

OK :)

>But yes, the Moog original is without Bypass switch, too. So obviously one
>can live without it. And I like the idea of running direct signal and
>>filtered signal to a mixer, or to the VC crossfade VCA, whatever. Just
>keep >in mind that if the module has no bypass switch, and if you want to
>patch a >bypass configuration, this would mean considerable extra effort.

It doesn't seem like it would be that much of an effort, but if the unit
doesn't have a gain knob, doing that would require an extra board channel.

I say if it can't be 2U without a bypass switch, then it should be 3U with
a bypass switch and a gain knob. Otherwise it's like a hot dog with no
mustard, and who the @$#%∗ wants that?? :)