But, the jacks on #2 ARE half way in between the normal grid,
right? For me the 1.5" knob spacing is too close to standard to
not look "funny" (funny strange, not funny haha). I voted for #2 for
this reason. My real preference is the 4U, but it seemed like that
would be a wasted vote (like Nader or Perot).
The best design for this module, IMO, would be 1U rack - knobs
left to right - low to high, like the EMS. This would be functionally
the best, but it's not an option - any other design is a set of
compromises. Even the 907 basis has a band discontinuity and
seems upside down to me.
I say generally stick with the grid, it's gone too far to turn back
now. But, if a module "wants" to be different - make it "really"
different or evenly different - different size knobs, etc. (the small
knob 450s were nice, too - but, you gotta have big knobs for a
907 clone :-).
Back to the 1.5" spacing, if the "moes" are to have this - maybe it
wouldn't be so bad on the FFB. But, I think a medium sized knob
(between MOTM and Encore) and an even further reduced
spacing (1.21875"?) might look less "funny" next to the standard
grid, when higher control density is required.
But what do I know? I will buy at least one 450 even if it's blue
and has Celtic tatoos. ;-)
Barry
--- In motm@y..., "John Loffink" <jloffink@a...> wrote:
> I can see your point. But just because a design is on or off the
grid
> doesn't make it better. I found #2 to be the most balanced
layout,
> without too much wasted space. #1 and 5 were lopsided,
knobs on one
> side and switch and jacks on the other. #3 and 4 had big
expanses of
> wasted blank space.
>
> The jacks on #2 are off the normal jack vertical grid,
incidentally.
>
> The MOTM grid spacing is tied into the module sizes. 1U is too
narrow
> for two rows of knobs. 2U could just barely fit 3 rows of Encore
size
> knobs, but personally I find these just a little small. 2U could fit
5
> columns of jacks, but usually we're short on knob space, not
jack space.
> Given the form factor I don't see many options until we get to
3U wide
> panels.
>
> For my forthcoming DIY diode waveshaper panel I am
considering smaller
> knobs, inbetween the Encore and standard MOTM sizes. This
won't fit it
> into a smaller panel, however. It's still 3U wide. It will just let
me
> put more of the diode breakpoints onto the module, allowing a
4 column
> by 5 row layout.
>
> John Loffink
> jloffink@a...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mate_stubb [mailto:mate_stubb@y...]
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 5:55 PM
> To: motm@y...
> Subject: [motm] Ergonomics
>
> Interesting - Paul has unintentionally created a monster with
"the
> grid". Both he and I attempted to break out of the rigid MOTM
grid
> with the design choices for the new 450. Guess which one the
majority
> is voting for.
>
> Moe
> .