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Subject: Laid Out over Layouts!

From: "thomas white" <djthomaswhite@...>
Date: 2002-04-15

To offer a different point of view to all who think MOTM is "too"
stringently designed.

I built my 40 module home system from the ground up and placed each module
into my own custom design arrangement here in my dual wood cabinets. Because
of this I never "Don't Know" or "Have Trouble" finding a knob or where one
of my own modules is. My whole synth is arranged in the most personally
ergonomic way for my patching preferences. Each of us have had to build or
arrange the MOTM this way do to the lack of cabinetry available right? So
who loses track of their modules in the system they built themselves? I have
a hard time not knowing exactly what part of my cabinet my modules are in
because they are in sections like VCO bank, filter bank EG bank VCA bank.
I'm sorry but if you can't tell the differences maybe you should paint your
modules different colors or something. No offense meant only I'm tired o
hearing people bitching about the colors, spacing and layout of these
modules. Its the sound that gets recorded right? I have DIY built my own
modules including the Stooge panels and I know for sure I F'ed up the grid
when drilling those. I even have one similar to the UEG in spacing with a
silver panel that "works" great for me and the listeners of my music never
see a thing HA! Maybe we should all go buy some Prada or Versace' clothes,
get a haircut and take fashion pictures next to our modulars JK! Well a
naked model sounds good anyways, I wonder if she'll fit laying all spread
out on the top of my cabinet like the front of a custom car?

Also, on the new Filter bank, I think it would be fine to comprimise the
design if we had to, but bottom line is since it is in a 3u panel we "Don't
have to" and we can add more features like the gain pot mentioned, inverted
output and the like. I obviously voted on Yahoo for the traditional MOTM
layout but will buy the module regardless. I just hope all care is taken to
make the module the best it can be in the bigger 3u. Can we have individula
outs for the lowpass and highpass responses?

All just my opinions and maybe some agree while some don't. Aren't opinions
grand? Comments?

Thomas White


>From: "rogerpellegrini" <pellegrini_roger@...>
>To: motm@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [motm] Re: Grids, Layouts, Ergonomics
>Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:37:25 -0000
>
>I apologize if this going over old ground, and I understand I may be
>invoking the wrath of the devoted, but in my humble opinion, the
>rigid grid MOTM panel design is a considerable drawback to the
>system. My opinion is that the Moog design approach (or to differing
>degrees the design of Arp 2500, Cirocco modulars, or Polyfusion
>systems) is superior in that anyone familiar with the modules can
>identify functions easily from a distance, a goal of good human
>interface design. To my eye, for example, no two Moog modules look
>alike, whereas (nearly) all the MOTM modules do. Look at the
>dashboards of well-designed cars and you will see differently shaped
>and sized buttons whose functions relate to their appearance and can
>be identified from a distance by a driver whose attention is (mostly)
>elsewhere. Those dashboards with rows of identical buttons are
>criticized in the automotive press.
>
>To put this in context, I use a medium-sized modular Moog augmented
>with a smattering of modules from MOTM, Synth.com and Blacet. I've
>also designed a few panels of my own over the last 20 years.
>Recently, faced with the choice of purchasing Mixer, Noise and Sample
>& Hold modules, I chose the Synth.com modules over the MOTM modules,
>simply from an ergonomic standpoint, and despite the superior
>specifications of the MOTM offerings. I truly do like the MOTM
>modules I currently have, and will purchase more, but there is room
>for improvement in the interface design.
>
>In any case, please consider the advantages of "varying the grid",
>allowing for different knob types, and functional layout choices when
>considering new panel designs. And thank you in advance for being
>open minded enough to consider other points of view.
>




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