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Subject: Re: [motm] Delay Module

From: media.nai@...
Date: 2002-02-27

>The audiophile∗ version: make it 24 bit and give it a fairly high
>base sampling rate (96 kHz?), so you could sweep down to half
>the base SR and up to double (with 192 kHz capable parts)

That sounds like overkill to me. Based on research papers that I've read,
and my own ears, 24/96 conversion doesn't sound any better than 24/44.1
conversion. Higher sampling rates only seem to matter when mixing or
altering sounds within the digital realm itself. Regardless, I'd take the
Pepsi challenge with my 18/48 PCM-80 against any of these consumer 24/96
delays any day of the week.

>24 bit 192kHz is a real misnomer. I can't think of any affordable 24bit A/D
>that goes anywhere near that speed. "Real" converters that can put out a
>real 24bits are only good for a few kHz (the last time I looked)
>
>Audio "type" converters have a 24bit output word, but typically about 5 of
>those bits are marketing bits. Look at the SNR and DR of the ADC for the
>real story.

This is true. There are many 16-bit converters that sound better than
24-bit converters. While there is a noticeable difference between 16-bit
and 20-bit, the difference between 20-bit and 24-bit seems insignificant.

>In order to do away with the zipper noise you have to vary the clock
>speed. >You would want to do this with voltage control.

I believe this is how the Korg SDD-2000 works, but it doesn't have voltage
control.

>But what about voltage control?

I have five digital delays, and four of them have voltage control. It's a
very common feature.

However, none of them can pass DC, which is what I would want in an motm
digital delay module.

>b) That leaves DSP/digital solutions. Which is "allowed" but then get a
>>Boss pedal for $45, rip guts out, put on blank panel. If I did one, I'd
>be >a $189 kit and everyone would squeal like a pig.

Could I get a sample of that sound?? :)