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Subject: Re: pictures

From: "Mike Marsh" <mmarsh@...>
Date: 2001-11-20

Many filters = good! I did not really mean to complain, since the
Arrick filter sounds very good. Very Moog-like but I'm not sure if I
can say "sounds like a modular" or "sounds like a mini". I ∗can∗ say
that it is not as timbrely complex as the 440. And hiss I can deal
with in my DAW...

Mike

--- In motm@y..., jhaible@t... wrote:
> Mike Marsh schrieb:
> > These samples do indeed sound great! A question: I
> > bought Roger
> > Arrick's ladder filter and noticed a significant amount
> > of hiss,
> > particularly compared to MOTM filters such as the 440. I
> > noticed
> > that your samples all had a similar amount of hiss and
> > the character
> > was essentially the same, too. Is this endemic to ladder
> > filter
> > designs?
>
> The hiss in my samples comes clearly from the Synthi Clone's
> VCA and the rest of the signal path. No such hiss in the
> filter (or in the final JH-5A for that matter).
> I don't know about the Roger Arrick filter, so I cannot
> comment on this. In general, the choice of transistors will
> directly have an influence on the noise, for a given
> architecture.
>
> Now if you compare the Moog Ladder structure with the SSM2040
> or it's descendant, the MOTM-440, the 440 will win in most
> every category, ∗except∗ that typical "trademark Moog" sound.
> It's no secret that the SSM2040 is my all time favorite.
> I used to say "you need to have one Moog VCF for that special
> sound, but that's enough", and consequently I used a single
> (Minimoog clone) Moog style filter and several SSM2040 style
> filters all these years. But recently I decided that the
> "one Moog filter sound" that I wanted was the one from the
> Modular, not from the Mini. I even consider to sell my MidiMini
> rackmount Mini clone to make space in the studio. (If anybody
> offers me an outrageous amount of money and picks it up at
> my home, that is - so it's more than likely that I'll keep
> it for a while (;->) ...)
>
> Ah, I forgot, I also have a Moog Taurus I filter clone for some
> years now. Clearly too many Moog filters ! (;->)
>
> JH.