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Subject: Re: RE: [motm] mounting idea

From: mark@...
Date: 2001-03-17

At 1:04 PM -0500 03/17/01, jwbarlow@... wrote:
>
>I would assume that Dave H. is mounting his aluminum rail on a wood
>crossmember to give the rail the rigidity needed. Every reference to flat
>cabinet rails in the past has taken this approach.

Heh heh heh rigidity uh huh uh wood :)

At 1:11 PM -0500 03/17/01, Dave Hylander wrote:
>
>Yes, they are mounted on 1/2" x 3/4" oak.

Well, that's not going anywhere!! I think pine (1/2" X 4") should work for
what I'm doing, besides I plan on painting them black.

At 6:39 PM +0000 03/17/01, mate_stubb@... wrote:
>
>First thing to know about these brass inserts is that they are soft.
>The top is slotted to drive them with a screwdriver, and you will
>peel the tabs right off if you attempt to drive them into oak, even
>with the proper sized hole drilled. They need soft pine rails. Steel
>inserts would fare better.

I've discussed similar things with carpenters in the past. I wondered why
most wood screws have slotted heads rather than phillips. What I've been
told is that it is very important when using brass screws to use a
screwdriver that fits perfectly into the head -- if such a connection is
made they can handle almost as much torque as phillips. You might also
note that many cross-point wood screws are not actually phillips but reed
prince, which has a differently shaped seat (straight rather than round).
Regardless, there are a lot of awful screwdrivers on the market that are
not shaped properly for any type of screw. Be sure to carefully match up
the driver with the fastener you are using.

For my application, I think either steel or brass would work.

At 11:40 AM -0600 03/17/01, J. Larry Hendry wrote:
>
>>From where do you get these brass inserts??
>
>Dave B (Moe) discovered these
>at Lowes in the specialty hardware section.
>
>The package is labeled
>#8-32 x 7/32
>Wood Insert Nuts
>
>8-32 is the screw size for the inside. 7/32 referes to the
>outside hole size I expect.
>
>The barcode # is 080358847830
>The stock # is 792270 I think
>The come in packs of 2 for abour 75 cents
>Moe has used them and can give you some tips on
>wood types and inserting them.

Thanx!! :)