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Subject: Re: [motm] (2) Questions and comments about motm

From: mark@...
Date: 2001-03-03

At 9:03 PM -0600 03/02/01, Microtonal wrote:
>
>A tempting selection of modules if you put together Doepfer, Analogue
>Solutions and Analogue Systems, but all built using those darned 1/8"
>jacks.

I must have missed Analogue Systems. Do all of those manufacturers use the
same mounting specifications?? Not only do I not like 1/8" jacks because I
am planning on using these modules with other gear more than with each
other, but you can't buy decent 1/8" cords. Afaik, Neutrik doesn't even
make 1/8" plugs -- so much for strain relief.

>Paul passed my pop quiz on jack grounding and future module feature sets
>with flying colors. I prefer the kit form. The modules are easy to put
>together and the entire process of soldering and assembling is relaxing
>IMHO. Remember that kits and other similar format modules are available
>from Oakley, Blacet and Encore not to mention the Larry specials.

Afaik, the only Encore module is the UEG, which seems like it is
specifically made for MOTM. I'm guessing that Paul didn't want to offer
anything digital in kit form.

The Blacet stuff has 1/8" jacks and is a different size.

I'm vaguely aware of Oakley -- British guy, sold a PCB for a Moog filter.
I'll do a web search. What are the Larry specials??

>> I am also looking to offset and invert envelopes and LFO's.
>> For example, I would like to take a bipolar LFO (that goes from -5V to
>> +5V) and make it go from 0V to 5V. I would also like to take envelopes
>> and make them go the other way. Is there any part of the motm system
>> that can do this??
>
>I have to admit I bought a Synthesizers.com Signal Processor module to do
>this. Nothing from MOTM yet.

I saw that on their flashy website. Too bad their webmaster isn't an EE,
or they'd be like Buchla :) It's only $70, and it has 1/4" jacks. Does it
fit in a motm system?? Can it use the same PS?? Afaik, Moog modules were
+10/-10 not +15/-15.

>> 1) 910 mult
>> 2-3) Encore UEG
>> 4-5) 820 Lag Processor
>> 6) 800 EG
>> 7-8) 320 VC LFO
>> 9-10) 410 Triple Resonant Filter
>>
>> How does that sound?? Is there anything that I might have overlooked??
>
>This will give you some good modulation sources and for that I'd say the
>UEG, 820 Lag and 320 VC LFO are virtually required. Overall this seems
>like a good setup for a 5U modulation and processing system.

Thanx :) I'm trying to put as much forethought as I can into this. As I
can only fit five or six modules, I have to pick each module _very_
carefully. As it seems now, I might have to lose a module in order to
process voltages. Maybe I'll have to lose the 910 and build a few mult
cables.

At 11:48 PM -0500 03/02/01, jwbarlow@... wrote:
>
>>However, a dedicated motm envelope follower is in development. Does
>>anyone know how big (units wide) it will be when it comes out??
>
>Just guessing but I'd think 2U,

Why is everything so @#$%&∗ big?? The Encore folks were able to fit 15
knobs, four switches, and a button within 2U. Space equals cost.

>but you will also need the (soon to be released) MOTM preamp

Why would I need a preamp??

>which I'd also think would be 2U.

∗head hits desk∗

rfg57uy8njijn

A pre-amp is 2U?? These modules are 5U high, 2U of motm equals one entire
19" rackspace.

Since the PCB's are at right angles to panels, I have to ask why do modules
with only three knobs like the 320 VC LFO take 2U of space?? If they were
more space efficient, people could buy more modules.

>>I also checked out the Encore UEG. It seems very versatile and
>>specifically designed for the motm system. Unfortunately, it doesn't come
>>in kit form. Can it be clocked (step-gated) at audio rates??
>
>I'm pretty sure it can -- I need to get one of these!

I'm not going to assume it can. The manual says it can only go as high as
60Hz when free-running as an LFO.

>> I would also like to take envelopes and make them go the
>>other way. Is there any part of the motm system that can do this??
>
>Go the other way? The MOTM 800 has a negative going output (0 to - 5V)
>>which mirrors the (normal) positive going output.

Yes, it does, but I meant envelopes from other sources, such as the Lag
Processor or UEG.

>It sounds like you have a very good idea what your needs are, so this
>would be a good first rack for what you describe. I'd recommend any of
>the other filters,

I like the sound of the SEM filter :)

>of course the RM, VCO (even if only for a modulation
>source),

The VC LFO can go up to 2800Hz, which is around an F7 -- a rather high note.

>the 101 S/H Noise with Vibrato, and the oft overlooked 700 VC
>Router, and soon to be released Dual (multimode) VCA.

What's a multimode VCA?? Isn't the 110 a dual VCA??

>I say a first rack because if you start into this you'll find yourself
>hooked and need to get more.

I sure hope not. Frankly, I don't have the room.


Thank you very much for your responses.