I also think you should stay Tony. I have always appreciated your comments
and your module pcb's. Long live the DIY spirit and the organization to
bring it to the web in the wee night hours after the grind of a day job. I
aspire towards this, not try to stiffle it in fear of Oakley taking over
MOTM. I don't think any of us addicts could ever let that happen, do you?
Thomas White
>From: "Aardvark-mi" <aardvark-mi@...>
>Reply-To: motm@yahoogroups.com
>To: <motm@yahoogroups.com>, <oakley@...>
>Subject: RE: [motm] Paul the Sloth
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:06:32 -0500
>
>Tony, I would like to see you reconsider and stay on the MOTM list. I have
>been on this list for just about a year and the one thing that I REALLY
>like
>about this list is it's diversity. I have learned a lot about 'my new
>hobby'
>from the influx of differant ideas and opinions. Tony, your ideas and
>opinions do count and are apprechiated by the majority of us on this list.
>So what if you happen to sell PCB's. I think that what you're doing helps
>strengthen our hobby, fans our interest, fills the DYI niche, and make us
>want to build more Modules! I know that if I happen to buy a PCB from you
>or
>anyone else 'cause I happen to be in the mood to get a little more daring
>and try something DIY that it won't stop me from buying all the MOTM
>modules
>and I'm sure most everyone on the list feels that way too.
>
>My 2 cents
>
>Al (The lurker speaks) Wagner
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tony Allgood [mailto:oakley@...]
>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 4:00 AM
>To: motm@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [motm] Paul the Sloth
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I didn't know whether to reply or not. I will if only to put my point
> across. This is the way I see it:
>
> I do not compete directly with any of Paul's products for one simple
> reason. I do not produce full kits or ready made modules. I have no
> intention of doing that. I produce PCBs, but more than that I produce
> User Guides and full schematics for the DIY community. Not everyone buys
> a PCB, and many people will e-mail me asking about building this stuff
> on Veroboard etc. One of the reasons I 'advertise' my ideas, is to show
> off my designs.
>
> I try not to produce modules that are directly equivalent to any of
> Paul's line ups. However, I am trying to produce a range of modules that
> will enable the builder to create a whole synth or modular synth. Some
> overlap is inevitable, but I have tried to minimise this by providing
> either extras or omissions on each module. The latest Noise/Filter
> module is an example of this. Yes, it is a noise module, but it is not a
> sample and hold. It also has a filter. The ADSR is not just a EG, but
> one with a built in VCA for velocity control. Many of the ideas of for
> modules come from customers too. Those of you have seen my User Guide
> for the AD/AR EG will realise, that I am not a great fan of the ADSR,
> but I kept on getting asked for one, so I did one. Not for the MOTMites,
> but for the guys who are building their own systems.
>
> I cannot foresee what modules are planned, and in fact one of the
> reasons for me joining the list was not to advertise, but make sure I
> didn't spend two months of my time designing a new module that was an
> exact copy of something that Paul had planned. The Oakley VC-LFO is a
> case in point. I still have my prototype VC-LFO built around Don
> Tilman's waveshaper that I will not release as a design or PCB because
> of its similarity with the 320.
>
> My suggested layouts do adhere to the MOTM format (almost) for three
> reasons. Firstly, I wanted to build up a MOTM system of my own, and I
> wanted my stuff to match. I would have wanted to buy plenty of MOTM
> modules, but my expanding family put paid to that. So I have just one, a
> MOTM-410. Secondly, Paul himself said he would like the MOTM format to
> be an accepted standard for modular systems. A bit like Doepfer/Analogue
> Systems etc. but for grown ups :-) And thirdly, I was hoping for some
> knock off business from Paul's more experienced building customers. This
> is the bit that you don't like. I can understand that. But, please look
> at my site. Virtually on every page there is mention of SynthTech. Some
> hyperlinks, some just words, but in all cases I am recommending people
> to go there and buy MOTM. I also have to say that many, if not most, of
> my customers do not build their units into MOTM sized cases.
>
> Anyway, I feel to avoid any hard feelings in the future I will unsub
> myself from this list forthwith. I will be still on synth-DIY and AH.
>
> Kind regards to you all,
>
> Tony Allgood
>
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