Personally, I would love to welcome Dave to my door.. invite him in for tea and biscuits and attempt to convince him to re-launch the Simmons Drums company. I'm sure a few of us would be more than willing to help him. :-)
On a more serious note, you do bring up valid points about this being potentially "stealing" the idea from Dave. It's a bit sticky, however, the copyright laws dictate and govern as set out on a 'country by country' basis as to what's deemed foul and/or exempt from claim. One would need to review the laws to ensure nothing is being done incorrectly. None of us are wanting to slap them on Ebay for profit... rather, we simply want them for our own personal use.
Nonetheless, Richard will no doubt credit Simmons for the design and he will take no credit whatsoever for the concept... and I'm guessing that he would not hesitate to contact Dave to discuss the ramifications of going forward with the Cart.
Dave, what say you?
Alan
--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "simmonssds7fan" <ptmetcalf@...> wrote:
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> As I said before, I'd be interested as well. However, not to be a thorn in anyone's side, but.....I think we may need to clear this with Mr. Dave Simmons to be sure he is ok with replicating his circuits, despite it being a modified one at that. I think it's safe to say we don't want to have any issues in the future, like the Guitar Center dispute, and subsequent law suit.
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> I know it's not an exact copy and it would be for our own use for our own SDS6/SDS7 units here within the group, but I think it may be worth thinking about from a legality standpoint (you never know if someone gets a feew of these and then decides to sell them on Ebay or the like. Doing something like that could get ugly.) If it were me making these I'd hate to have Mr Simmons calling on my door with a cease and desist order.
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> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <warlandr63@> wrote:
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> > Ok so there is enough interest I'll go ahead based on the design shown in the 3d render. I have to redo the track layout a bit as trying to get it all into the smaller box is proving a bit difficult.
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> > So rest assured I will keep you updated as to whats happening. Getting the boards made is a few weeks turn around and sourcing the components etc will take a little time. I'd estimate though it should take 4 to 8 weeks to get some out to you. I will do them on a first served basis so when I'm ready to put them together I'll post here. I've got a paypal account so that is probably the best option..even if you don't have an account you can pay via the paypal site.
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> > Yeah the hourly rate is cheap....
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> > I'm pretty much retired from the work force (well forced retirement, I'm in my late 40's - can't work due to busting my back at work and having my spine all fused up) I have no debts, the house is paid for and my wife works...me, no income..=(
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> > Anyway sorry for the drivel, stayed tuned.
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> > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <warlandr63@> wrote:
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> > > Ok, I've got to get a price on the PCB from the manufacturer.
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> > > As to the components, they come to $47.00 (hi cost items are the SW, Plug and case, Only good manufacturers chosen so good quality. These items are $22.00 of the cost. The 4 Ram chips are $19.00)
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> > > I'd estimate the PCB's will be around $8 - $16 ea (based on previous experience.
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> > > My time to cut the case for openings, build PCB and test - approx 1 hr
> > > So if I ask for a token $15.00 for that (and man thats a cheap hourly rate...lol) you are looking at around $80.00ea
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> > > You can see why ultimately it is best to go surface mount and get them made....each pcb assembled from a chinese plant would be about 30 bucks!!
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