Probably we should define "share" a bit more detailed. I hope that everybody agrees that schematics are a valuable intellectual property. Especially the Simmons schematics are still "owned" by a company named "Sound Unit" which is the last "Simmons Drums" company. This company still exists! For that reason I would not share those schematics at a public place. On the other hand I am glad to know where I can get them to get my 6 fixed (or for Michael to get my 6 fixed :-P )
For that reason I can only thank Fabio for giving Michael the schematics - for free. And once my SDS6 will run again I know I owe both of them a big favour (like a couple of bugs or hugs and kisses, whatever they deserve)
--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Buchner" <buchnerelectronics@...> wrote:
>
> Hello list,
>
> I was several times asking the list for the SDS6 CPU schematics sheet ( I had all other ones). Nobody was willing to share it. Some days ago, Fabio payed a lot of money to complete the SDS6 schematics. He cleaned them with photoshop and shared them with me immediately FREE.
>
> So, several questions occur and please think about them:
>
> First: The CPU sheet was available all the time but the owners were not willing to share. I know at least two people who had the sheet and did'nt react to my "plea". Why did they hold it back? And why can you get it if you pay?
>
> Second: How shall I behave in the future? I always help people with advice, manuals and schematics FREE. But in this case: If anybody is asking for SDS6 schematics, shall I give these for free although Fabio payed a lot of money for the CPU sheet? Or charge a little money to give Fabio something back? Funny, isn't it?
>
> Best
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jesper
> To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Schematics / service manuals I'm looking for....Help
>
>
>
> I meant Wolfgang, not Michael. My bad. Anyway, Paul has a site:
> www.simmons.synth.net with manuals that sometimes appear for sale
> online. Wolfgang runs http://simmonsmuseum.com/?area=manuals which
> contains a lot too.
>
> --
> electronically yours, jesper
>
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> fabiobarker skrev 2012-02-02 00:07:
> > Paul and Michael website? which website?
> > I agree with you about people selling schematics/manuals
> >
> > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>, jesper <jesper@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > So now we're back in a discussion I don't really want to have, but I
> > > don't want to be a fascist moderator either. I think many
> > > misunderstandings on this list is due to the fact that we have very
> > > different backgrounds as far as languages go... (Patiently awaiting
> > > offline abuse...)
> > >
> > > Anyway - I love, as a collector/service guy of my own gear, if people
> > > share and upload schematics. I think those who sell copies for profit
> > > are mostly crooks.
> > >
> > > My post below was regarding people selling copies that is available for
> > > free on Paul's and Michael's sites. Same goes for eprom sounds on Ebay
> > > and similar.
> > >
> > > So Fabio, it was not to harrass you.
> > >
> > > Pax,
> > > --
> > > electronically yours, jesper
> > >
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> > > www.electronic-obsession.se
> > >
> > >
> > > fabiobarker skrev 2012-02-01 15:58:
> > > > If I got the schematics is because I paid for it but...who will claim
> > > > copyright for the schematics? Simmons didn't have the power to keep the
> > > > Name but will claim the schematics copyright?
> > > > I think is the anally retentive nature of gear collectors, there are
> > > > exception obviously not everybody is an idiot keeping everything to
> > > > himself or trying to charge an abussive price for a single Simmons
> > part.
> > > > But it's ok I will pretend I believe you and I will keep all to myself
> > > > to allow to the same people to keep geting profit with Simmons stuff.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>, jesper <jesper@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just to be clear: I believe that the issue of sharing wasn't the main
> > > > > concern. Selling copyrighted stuff, uploading someoneelse's scans and
> > > > > similar without giving credit was though.
> > > > > I know many here would appreciate links to schematics and manuals not
> > > > > already out there. But putting them in the yahoogroups database might
> > > > > not be that good. There is not that much space and yahoogroups do
> > need
> > > > > to listen when Big Brother comes waving his SOPA-banner....
> > > > >
> > > > > Just my thoughts,
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > electronically yours, jesper
> > > > >
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> > >
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