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Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Schematics / service manuals I'm looking for....Help

From: "Michael Buchner" <buchnerelectronics@...>
Date: 2012-02-02

Hello list,

I was several times asking the list for the SDS6 CPU schematics sheet ( I had all other ones). Nobody was willing to share it. Some days ago, Fabio payed a lot of money to complete the SDS6 schematics. He cleaned them with photoshop and shared them with me immediately FREE.

So, several questions occur and please think about them:

First: The CPU sheet was available all the time but the owners were not willing to share. I know at least two people who had the sheet and did'nt react to my "plea". Why did they hold it back? And why can you get it if you pay?

Second: How shall I behave in the future? I always help people with advice, manuals and schematics FREE. But in this case: If anybody is asking for SDS6 schematics, shall I give these for free although Fabio payed a lot of money for the CPU sheet? Or charge a little money to give Fabio something back? Funny, isn't it?

Best

Michael



----- Original Message -----
From: jesper
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] Re: Schematics / service manuals I'm looking for....Help



I meant Wolfgang, not Michael. My bad. Anyway, Paul has a site:
www.simmons.synth.net with manuals that sometimes appear for sale
online. Wolfgang runs http://simmonsmuseum.com/?area=manuals which
contains a lot too.

--
electronically yours, jesper

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fabiobarker skrev 2012-02-02 00:07:
> Paul and Michael website? which website?
> I agree with you about people selling schematics/manuals
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>, jesper <jesper@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > So now we're back in a discussion I don't really want to have, but I
> > don't want to be a fascist moderator either. I think many
> > misunderstandings on this list is due to the fact that we have very
> > different backgrounds as far as languages go... (Patiently awaiting
> > offline abuse...)
> >
> > Anyway - I love, as a collector/service guy of my own gear, if people
> > share and upload schematics. I think those who sell copies for profit
> > are mostly crooks.
> >
> > My post below was regarding people selling copies that is available for
> > free on Paul's and Michael's sites. Same goes for eprom sounds on Ebay
> > and similar.
> >
> > So Fabio, it was not to harrass you.
> >
> > Pax,
> > --
> > electronically yours, jesper
> >
> > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> > www.electronic-obsession.se
> >
> >
> > fabiobarker skrev 2012-02-01 15:58:
> > > If I got the schematics is because I paid for it but...who will claim
> > > copyright for the schematics? Simmons didn't have the power to keep the
> > > Name but will claim the schematics copyright?
> > > I think is the anally retentive nature of gear collectors, there are
> > > exception obviously not everybody is an idiot keeping everything to
> > > himself or trying to charge an abussive price for a single Simmons
> part.
> > > But it's ok I will pretend I believe you and I will keep all to myself
> > > to allow to the same people to keep geting profit with Simmons stuff.
> > >
> > > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:Simmons_Drums%40yahoogroups.com>, jesper <jesper@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just to be clear: I believe that the issue of sharing wasn't the main
> > > > concern. Selling copyrighted stuff, uploading someoneelse's scans and
> > > > similar without giving credit was though.
> > > > I know many here would appreciate links to schematics and manuals not
> > > > already out there. But putting them in the yahoogroups database might
> > > > not be that good. There is not that much space and yahoogroups do
> need
> > > > to listen when Big Brother comes waving his SOPA-banner....
> > > >
> > > > Just my thoughts,
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > electronically yours, jesper
> > > >
> > > > - -- --- ---- ----- ---- --- -- -
> > > > www.electronic-obsession.se
> >




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