Beer's obviously fogged mine up too - when I said "phono plug" I
meant "jack plug (quarter-inch)". Sorry for any confusion !!
--- In
Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "david pinnington"
<davep@t...> wrote:
> hi phil
> much better answer to history than i could give
> beer must have fogged mine up!!
> dp
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phil Murray
> To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 10:06 PM
> Subject: [Simmons Drums] Re: simmons pads help please
>
>
> Mark 1 pads were made by Premier for the SDS 3 and 4 and used
> loudspeakers for pickups.
>
> Mark 2 were the "riot shield" pads Spandau Ballet and everyone
else
> that used the SDS 5 loved (and damaged their wrists on !). Used
a
> piezo transducer as the pickup as did all future ones (ex-SDX -
see
> later). All pads including bass had XLR connectors.
>
> Mark 3 pads came in 2 styles, the pricey XLR-type that
accompanied
> the SDS 7, and the cheaper phono-type "bowls" that came with the
SDS
> 8 etc.
>
> Mark 4 pads apparently cost a 6-figure sum to produce and are
the
> ones you usually see on ebay, etc. They are the best and also
come
> in a "stereo" snare version with pad and rimshot. Used with SDS
9,
> SDS 1000, SDS 2000, etc... From memory I think you could buy
them
> in either phono or XLR type.
>
> SDX pads (ZI - zone intellient) are based on the mark 4 hardware
but
> totally different (and incompatible) pickups. They use a 3-wire
mesh
> to sense position, and force-sensing resistor pad to sense hit
power
> (except bass which is the same as the mark 4 - piezo, and no
> position sensing). They are superb, a brilliant concept (works
like
> those mouse pads on modern laptop computers), though still like
> hitting a car tyre ! Use stereo phono connectors except for
stereo
> snare which has a funny 4-pin connector.
>
> Hexa-series - the final pads, Hexasnare, Hexabass, etc. and as
Dave
> says have a real Remo head, feeding a piezo transducer. Good
feel
> to them, use them if you get the chance.
>
> Don't try to use ZI pads with other (Simmons or non-Simmons)
> hardware - they don't work as they don't produce a voltage.
>
> A bonus (dunno if intentional but then again Dave Simmons/Simon
> Davidmann/Jim Pinnock et al. were genius way ahead of their time
so
> it probably was) is that the piezo-pads work very well with the
SDX.
> My SDX setup has Hexapads and ZI pads with real cymbals and it
feels
> and sounds awesome !
>
> hope this is of some use...
>
> Phil
>
> --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "sdxsds9" <davep@t...>
wrote:
> > hi
> > the riot shield plastic pads were sds5's and are pretty damn
rare
> in
> > fact i only iever saw two sets in the 80's when i worked in a
> music
> > shop
> >
> > the sds9/1000/800 etc's with black rubber surface (also have a
> > deeper hexagonal casing below..........there are lots of these
> > puppies around some are jack plug and some are xlr's used
these
> from
> > around '87 to '94 and they were pretty bombproof but a little
dead
> > to play in terms of bounce
> >
> > sdx pads look the same audience side as sds9 etc pads but have
a
> > grey surface and the pickups are totally different as they
were
> for
> > sdx system (not tried them with other gear yet!!) yet to find
how
> > durable these are
> >
> > i also recall the late model simmons pads which used a drum
head
> and
> > the bass drum had a beater bar across the top but can't recall
the
> > name but i think they were pretty rare as it was around the
time
> > simmons shut up shop finally and when i stopped playing when
my
> kit
> > was stolen...........
> >
> > most of the pads you'll see for sale are the black rubber type
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, "omons43612"
<omons@h...>
> > wrote:
> > > i am in the process of getting rid of my yamaha drum pads to
> > replace
> > > them with simmons pads to add a bit more character to my
rig.
> The
> > > only thing is, i DO NOT want the simmons pads with the hard
> > plastic
> > > playing surface. would someone be kind enough to enlighten
me
> as
> > to
> > > model #'s of simmons pads with the gum rubber playing
surfaces?
> > >
> > > thanks in advance for any help,
> > >
> > > STB
>
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