Hello Jesper (or should I say: Hejsan Jesper ;-)
"See what
> happened here when guitar center started selling their crap kit.
People came
> here with questions none of us felt like answering..."
I'm totally with you on that one. I too was appalled when I found out
they were peddeling a pile of junk under the Simmons name.
"To me it comes down to the enjoyment of making music too, not just
the sound
> that comes out of the speaker. I spent a bunch of hours this
weekend
> changing every slider in my old ARP Odyssey instead of throwing it
out and
> going for a soft version."
Changing sliders didn't get much music made did it? ;-)
It's not just because I love that old boy but also
> because I know I enjoy the slider pushing more than staring at a
screen. But
> I'm a gear-head so it might just be me... but I don't think so."
I think it's you. :-)
But seriously Jesper, I think we represent to different groups.
But I also think that there's enough guys like me out there who would
appreciate a software version.
Some prefer to dial knobs on a piece of hardware, others prefer
dialing on a computer screen. In the end only the music matters (to
me anyway).
Finally Jesper I would like to thank you for keeping this a sober and
friendly discussion. I have heard of people dissing each other and
resolving to namecalling in other forums.
At least I think we can agree to disagree. :-)
See you around
Thomas
--- In Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com, <jesper@...> wrote:
>
> From: "Thomas" <t_j_m_m_d@...>
>
> > Hello Jesper. I don't quite agree with you - or maybe I just don't
> understand what you mean by PC rascals.
>
> "PC Rascal" is a 17-year old kid into techno music thinking there
is no such
> things as instruments outside the screen.;)
>
> > Why shouldn't they have the real sound? Just because they have a
tool
> that can give them the sound of Simmons doesn't necessarily mean
they
> can make proper music with it, right?
>
> Most certainly not... They can have all the emulating software they
want (if
> they pay for it or download shareware that is) - I don't care, but
I'm so
> fed up with the views that it "sound as good" or "even better" etc.
See what
> happened here when guitar center started selling their crap kit.
People came
> here with questions none of us felt like answering...
>
> > For me, there wouldn't be a difference between turning knobs on my
> computer and turning knobs on a piece of hardware.
>
> That's you... :)
>
> > That might be
> because I have never owned a Simmons kit (although I have had a
> chance to buy a SDS V and a SDS 7 (defective, that's why I didn't
buy
> it).
>
> Probably! (totally honest here)
>
> > But when even hardcore analog purists have a hard time telling
> the difference between a softsynth and the real thing, I think that
a
> software version of the Simmons kits would be a great idea as I
> expect it would come very close to the original.
>
> To me it comes down to the enjoyment of making music too, not just
the sound
> that comes out of the speaker. I spent a bunch of hours this
weekend
> changing every slider in my old ARP Odyssey instead of throwing it
out and
> going for a soft version. It's not just because I love that old boy
but also
> because I know I enjoy the slider pushing more than staring at a
screen. But
> I'm a gear-head so it might just be me... but I don't think so.
>
> As a dane you could compare the prices in "Den Blå Avis" och "Gul
og Gratis"
> not to mention stores in Copenhagen and you'll see that people have
a thing
> for the real deal... There must be some reason why people pay 4000
DKK for a
> SDS-V if they can download samples and emulate it as good...
>
> Time will tell what happens... :)
>
> electronically yours, jesper
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