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Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] SDS-III vs SDS-IV internally

From: <jesper@...>
Date: 2007-04-02

Double checked the schematics... The 3086's are drawn as full schematics and
not standard IC's, that's why I missed them. Sure looks like the same setup.
If anyone tech-skilled want to look at the SDS-III schematics I'm having
suspicious thoughts of the 1458 in the top right corner on the schematics.
Pin 1 gives just 1/10 of the value on the corresponding channel. As I
interpret the circuitry this directly affects the tone/noise pot (which is
fully functional BTW).

What does the LFO section offer then? Doesn't look that impressive on the
schematics. Time to mod the SDS-IV maybe? Trying to read pictures
online+schematics getting this;

LFO speed (slow->fast)
range: slow/fast
LFO shape: square/sine
LFO on/off
run time (short->long)
run on/off
output level

So the SDS-III has no waveform control. interesting, I didn't know this...

electronically yours, jesper
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----- Original Message -----
From: <michael.buchner@...>
To: <Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Simmons Drums] SDS-III vs SDS-IV internally


Hi Jesper,
this is exactly the thing I want to know. The III is the four channel
device, as far as I know and the IV the two channel device, but the IV is
not only half III. The IV has no master section with run generator and lfo,
but may be the single channel is also different to the III.
I repaired Wolfgangs III two month ago. It has no oscillators at all, the
tone is nothing but a resonating ladder filter, copied 1:1 from good old bob
moog. If you turn the Noise/Tone pot to noise, the resonance is completely
off, so also the impact click will not be audible. But on my schematics of
the III there are 3 3086 per channel, these are containing transistor arrays
to build this filter.
What I am wondering about is this pot on the IV called "Waveshape". Is this
an osc or only an lfo? Maybe a good photo of both solder side and parts side
would help.
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: jesper@...
To: Simmons_Drums@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 3:01 PM
Subject: [Simmons Drums] SDS-III vs SDS-IV internally


Hi List!

I'm looking inside my newly arrived SDS-IV due to a dead oscillator and
I'm
comparing it to the schematics of SDS-III. Is it just me or aren't they
alike? There are no 3086's on the SDS-III schematics but quite a few in
the
SDS-IV...

Anyone with a SDS-IV schematic around?

electronically yours, jesper
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