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Subject: Re: First PCB.... neutralizing the HCL

From: Richard Mustakos <rmustakos@...>
Date: 2004-05-19

Adam,
Thanks for the info on slaked lime.
But go with the iron: aluminum may be better at getting the copper out,
but when I asked a company that deals with powdered metals about the
toxic waste thing, they said that aluminum was considered more hazardous
then copper. They said there were no restriction on copper for them,
but there were aluminum restrictions.
But if you do use aluminum, treat it right. Small aluminum
powder/crystals are not a fire hazard directly, like phosphorus or
plutonium (phosphogenic?), but they are a combustion hazard. My father
told me that in Viet Nam, they used aluminum powder with a small starter
charge to blow up buildings, The small charge mixed the aluminum powder
with the air, and started it burning. Aluminum burns fairly slowly
(compared to explosives), so it's not a sharp explosion, just a big old
push that lifts the roof up and knocks the walls down. I expect that is
the case with most metallic powders. I don't know the powder volume
requirements to do damage, so be careful with it, or store it outside.
But even plate aluminum burns - that is, sustains a fire with no help
once started (USS Stark and M113s, for instance), while iron plate does
not. I guess Aluminum burning releases more KWatts per unit mass, and
has a lower ignition temperature then steel or iron.
Richard

>If you want to remove copper then easiest approach is throw in some scrap
>iron and/or aluminum while the etchant is still slightly acidic. The copper
>precipitates as copper metal and aluminium/iron goes into solution.
>After about 1 week the solution will be crystal clear with brown copper
>sludge on the bottom. Syphon out most of the liquid being careful not to
>disturb the sediment, neutralize the remaining sludge and leave few days to
>dry to a dark crust. Works well with spent ammonium persulfate etchant and
>CuCl. But I havn't tried treating FeCl3 etchant this way.
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>Adam
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