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Subject: Re: People still using toner transfer??? was Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] First attempt at toner transfer

From: <n0tt1@...>
Date: 2016-06-09


I've been lurking too, Chris.  I once tried to use Mucilage glue that
one guy said he likes to use applied to paper and hung to dry....
well, my experience on that was that the paper wrinkles rather
badly 'cuz the glue is wet.
 
I thinking that the gelatin might also wrinkle the paper like the glue
because it is mostly water.  I hope I'm wrong on that (re: the wrinkling).
 
It kind of sounds like the gelatin mix could actually be sprayed on, maybe on
something besides paper to avoid the wrinkling?
 
So, has anybody tried the gelatin on paper yet?
 
Charlie
 
On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 07:00:32 +0000 (UTC) "Chris Tofu indiscreetlogic@... [Homebrew_PCBs]" <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com> writes:
 

I didn't even think you could buy it.

Been lurking for a while.

Anyway, I attended a informal discussion of a new fandangled method of, technically I guess, toner transfer. Utilizing Knox brand gelatine. Like Jello, but no flava. Let me see if I can remember the procedure.

Whatever the recipe is for plain gelative, use 3x as much water. IIRC one packet requires dissolving in 1/4 cup of cold water, with 1 3/4 cups of boiling subsequently added. So therefore to 1 packet add 3/4 cup cold water, dissolve, then 5 1/4 cups of water, for a total of 6 cups. Now that's a lot of gelatine, so you may want to "cut" the packet into portions w/a razor like a coca cola dealer :). Use your discretion. Just don't snort the stuff.

 Um while still a liquid (presumably it'll stay a liquid, too thin to gel but what do I know), paint with a cheap paint brush on to sheet/s of printer paper. Maybe let it cool a bit before painting? Let dry. When dry, print your artwork onto these sheets (on the Knox side obviously) using a copy machine (I don't remember inkjet printers being acceptable). Then you would iron those sheets onto copper board (using a cloth between iron and sheet), with steam IIRC. I think you could also bake it in the oven for a while to harden it, can't remember the details, maybe 100 degrees for an hour? Most ovens don't go down that low, so improvise I guess.

 I haven't tried it yet, but was told it's basically fool proof. Unlike the standard commercial toner transfer sheets which is so error prone to make it unacceptable. Give it a shot, let the group know. Any questions, feel free to ask, I'll do what I can to answer them.