Myc,
My plans are constantly updated. Both Brute and the 7th Sojourn
have seen various updates. I print out every plans one out a time so
plans are always up to date. Having preprinted plansets for 10
machines is a large chunk of money.
My complaint was the guy produced plans for my design. If he were
so great he would have designed his own machine. Changing the size of
a few parts and screwing up the overall design and producing free
plans does not help anybody. My goal was to bring a cheap and easy to
build machine to the masses. Others have come onboard without ripping
me off! Those who can do! Those who can't criticize those who can! I
was the first to bring a cheap PCBMill/Drill planset to the market.
Six years have come and gone and some guys are still talking!!!
John
--- In
Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "mycroft2152" <mycroft2152y@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> I guess I started a firestorm.
>
> Are your complaints based on the fact you want the acknowlegement
> (ego boost) of combining gas pipes and aluminum channels, or are yopu
> bemoaning the fact that your "evergreen" project is not going to go
> on forever?
>
> Just face it, you are merely selling convenience. Convenience in
> time savings by having the details printed on a pieces of paper.
> Convenience for a shoulder to cry on after screwing up (your private
> club).
>
> Reread your comments about HobbyCNC. Dave did it right, when the
> competition came in, he improved his design and made the old ones
> obsolete. But again, he is selling hardware not pieces of paper.
>
> Since, you have stated that you will not make any improvements in the
> plans, your course of action to sell more plans is to set the price
> so that it is more convenient for someone to buy them preprinted
> rather than printing the 100+ pages themselves.
>
> Re: your comments about the music industry, no one is making you pay
> for singing or humming a song that you like.
>
> Myc
>
>
>
>
>
> "crankorgan" <john@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Chris,
> > > Three people copied the HobbyCNC board. All three went down
> > in
> > > flames when Dave came out with the new board. It made my day! You
> > can
> > > search every magazine in the world. I was the first to use the
> > window
> > > channel. The scraps never made it into the hands of the public.
> You
> > > remind me of the people who said swaping MP3s were going to help
> > the
> > > record industry. I am in the process of looking for a job. There
> > won't
> > > be any new designs (old ones according to you) coming from me in
> > the
> > > future. I took a bunch of old ideas and made something new out of
> > > them. In six years nobody has done anything as slick.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "lcdpublishing"
> > > <lcdpublishing@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi John,
> > > >
> > > > I know you have been upset about this whole thing for some time
> > now. I
> > > > don't know what you expect of other people though.
> > Realistically, your
> > > > machine designs use crude, commonly available materials. Just
> > because
> > > > you printed on paper the idea of using cheap window channel for
> > a
> > > > guideway does not give you sole rights to use that idea. Nor
> > does the
> > > > use of extremely crude gas/water pipe for other machine
> > components.
> > > > Anyone can use any of those materials in anything they wish to,
> > > > including a CNC machine.
> > > >
> > > > If you look back through woodworking magazines for the last 20
> > years
> > > > or so, you will find numerous uses of the cheap aluminum
> > extrusions
> > > > for a variety of jigs and fixtures. In many cases, it was used
> > as a
> > > > guideway. Assuming those published drawings predate yours,
> then
> > in
> > > > essence you ripped off them of their idea.
> > > >
> > > > Using gas pipe and or water pipe is another "hacked together"
> > framing
> > > > material used for innovative purposes long before you used it
> on
> > your
> > > > machine. As it is easy to obtain, it has been used for many
> > other
> > > > purposes including as an axel for a turntable type device
> > published in
> > > > a woodworking magazine many years back. It is used as
> a "hidden
> > shelf
> > > > hanger" device and I am sure many other unique applications.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know if you expected the world to bow down to you for
> > all
> > > > machine designs using similar materials, but if so, you were
> not
> > being
> > > > realistic at all. Sorry to sound so harsh, but you seem to
> want
> > to
> > > > claim rights to things that you have no right to claim. If
> > someone is
> > > > photocopying your drawings and reselling them, call the
> > authorities as
> > > > you would have something to complain about. But complaining
> > about
> > > > people showing similar uses of similar materials is just
> > unrealistic.
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "crankorgan" <john@>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Stefan,
> > > > > Lets see him produce plans without the window channel.
> > The
> > > > > window channel was my epiphany! He mounted the motor and
> > bearing
> > > > > plates on the channel the same way! The Z axis Gas pipe etc.
> I
> > guess
> > > > > if I stole your car and repainted it, that would be ok with
> > you?
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > >
> > >
> >
>