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Subject: Re: USB vs. RS-232

From: "drmabuce" <drmabuce@...>
Date: 2006-04-15

Hi all

a very helpful and erudite discussion, this-
my $.02:

--- In ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com, John Blacet
<blacet@...> wrote:

> I decided not to take on the PSIM as a product due to the RS232 issue.

and thus confirmation--
(from, IMHO, the most eminent and efficient production designer in
the analog field...kudos! John)
--that the current chosen platform is the BAsicAtomPro and, for good
or ill, this gen-I gadget's idiosyncracies must , of necessity, set
the gropund rules for the first CVS...
and that means RS232.
i would also add, based on my experience with the PSIM, that the RS232
interface supported by the BasicAtomPro is VERY robust.
If you prefer USB there are plenty of external ways to skin that cat.
Mind you, this is not an endorsement of RS232 over USB; merely a
compromise made to get a gen-I CVS designed and built.....soon.
This is an experimenters/hobbyists DIY device not an attempt at a
commercial product as John so succinctly explains...

> It does not make business sense to make a music product that does not
> have USB and Mac compatibility. The Atom Pro is also very expensive.
>
> It does make sense for dedicated hobbyist use.
>

-snip

> I suspect someone will eventually put together a Basic solution that
> makes sense in today's market.
>

and the folks who do so will benefit greatly from the coalesence of
expertise and inspitration available in the discussions of this project

as ever thanx to all who are contributing to this effort.
-doc



> Michael A. Firman wrote:
>
> >
> > As mentioned here before, I've had really good results with a cheap
> > USB-Serial connector
> > and VirtualPC running on OSX (my iMac). A USB interface would be nice
> > but it sounds
> > like much too much work for this package. I am looking for a nice
> > (inexpensive) USB
> > connected EPROM programming solution since I've had much less success
> > with a
> > USB-Parallel connector and my current burner/software (a Needham
> > EMP-10 and their
> > very old DOS software. Although I must add that the DOS software
works
> > fine in
> > VirtualPC but it just can't see the USB-Parallel port).
> >
> > --- In ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com, "John Loffink"
> > <jloffink@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The Basic Atom Pro is based upon the Renesas 3664 processor. Basic
> > Micro
> > > wraps the 3664 processor with standard hardware port assignments, a
> > BASIC
> > > library and programming tools to provide the solution.
> > >
> > > Without hardware or BASIC library support for USB, adding USB is
not so
> > > easy. It requires adding a device like a Cypress CY7C68001 USB
> > Interface,
> > > which only comes in surface mount packages. It requires an added
> > parallel
> > > interface from the BASIC ATOM PRO, pins that we don't have, so a
> > bridging
> > > solution is needed, such as I2C to Parallel I/O. The other
option is an
> > > integrated RS-232 to USB bridge, but why build something in that is
> > > available off the shelf?
> > >
> > > Clearly we should keep the RS-232 interface and keep any USB
bridges or
> > > interfaces external to the CVS.
> > >
> > > For those without RS-232 ports, buying a 1999-2000 era Intel based
> > laptop is
> > > an inexpensive option. These will run Windows 98 and have an
RS-232
> > port.
> > > I have one around just for that purpose, purchased for $75 from the
> > local
> > > school surplus store.
> > >
> > > John Loffink
> > > The Microtonal Synthesis Web Site
> > > http://www.microtonal-synthesis.com
> > > The Wavemakers Synthesizer Web Site
> > > http://www.wavemakers-synth.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [mailto:ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of (i
> > think you
> > > > can figure that out)
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 3:23 AM
> > > > To: ComputerVoltageSources@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [ComputerVoltageSources] Re: USB vs. RS-232
> > > >
> > > > I guess i have to do more reading - i was (possibly incorrectly)
> > > > assuming you were still usig the basicatom pro - is this an
> > > > incorrect sassumption?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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