Yamaha CS80

Any of you guys also own the CS60?

If so, how much of a sound difference is there?

And what about the CS40M?


Just curious..........

I've played with both.  The CS80 is basically like having two CS60s in one with polyaftertouch and a better interface.  I was surprised to find that the CS80 was like two separate synths in one package where you can layer the different patches.  That abviously has a huge impact on the sound.  Just playing one patch, I'm pretty sure they would sound identical.  

cheers,
matrix
http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: cuari7 
  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 2:34 PM
  Subject: [yamahacs80] ....and more questions.


  Any of you guys also own the CS60?

  If so, how much of a sound difference is there?

  And what about the CS40M?

  Just curious..........



   

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OK, so here's another question:

The ring modulator in mine is not doing what it's supposed to.

The attack, decay and depth sliders do not appear to have any effect 
on the sound. Only the speed and modulation sliders work.

Any suggestions?

Hi Gang,

Jesus, are you aware that the ring mod is monophonically triggered?  The
envelope generator will only fire off when a new key or keys are hit after
all the keys have been let up first.  If you try this style of playing and
it still never fires off, than there is a problem with either the circult
that derives this mono trigger, or the envelope generator IC in the ring mod
has failed.

Regarding your earlier question of the heavy action of the CS-80, I, like
you, wish that the 80 had more of a synth action keyboard.  I don't think
there's any way to change this, though, as the CS-80 keyboard is very
integrated into the whole system.  You would have to come up with some kind
of mechanism that took care of the initial touch and after touch.  All I
could think of is recreating the keys of the keyboard out of a lightweight,
non-metallic substance.  I can't even imagine how much this would cost.
Sorry for all the bad news!

Regards,

Kyle Jarger
----- Original Message ----- 

From: "cuari7" <diaz.jesus@...>
To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 8:59 AM
Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: ....and more questions.


> OK, so here's another question:
>
> The ring modulator in mine is not doing what it's supposed to.
>
> The attack, decay and depth sliders do not appear to have any effect
> on the sound. Only the speed and modulation sliders work.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Thanx for the info, dood!

--- In yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com, "Kyle Jarger" <jkjelec@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Gang,
> 
> Jesus, are you aware that the ring mod is monophonically 
triggered?  The
> envelope generator will only fire off when a new key or keys are 
hit after
> all the keys have been let up first.  If you try this style of 
playing and
> it still never fires off, than there is a problem with either the 
circult
> that derives this mono trigger, or the envelope generator IC in the 
ring mod
> has failed.
> 
> Regarding your earlier question of the heavy action of the CS-80, 
I, like
> you, wish that the 80 had more of a synth action keyboard.  I don't 
think
> there's any way to change this, though, as the CS-80 keyboard is 
very
> integrated into the whole system.  You would have to come up with 
some kind
> of mechanism that took care of the initial touch and after touch.  
All I
> could think of is recreating the keys of the keyboard out of a 
lightweight,
> non-metallic substance.  I can't even imagine how much this would 
cost.
> Sorry for all the bad news!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kyle Jarger
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "cuari7" <diaz.jesus@...>
> To: <yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 8:59 AM
> Subject: [yamahacs80] Re: ....and more questions.
> 
> 
> > OK, so here's another question:
> >
> > The ring modulator in mine is not doing what it's supposed to.
> >
> > The attack, decay and depth sliders do not appear to have any 
effect

> > on the sound. Only the speed and modulation sliders work.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

By the way:

If anybody here has an extra CS80 that you're willing to sell, let me 
know.

Email me or call me:

diazdotjesusatmayodotedu   or phone 904-537-7876


thanx!!!!!!!!!!

Possibly....But Vangelis has "extra's"...Stevie
  Wonder has "extra's:...not many of us have that luxury.
   
  Peace~ J D

cuari7 <diaz.jesus@...> wrote:
          By the way:

If anybody here has an extra CS80 that you're willing to sell, let me 
know.

Email me or call me:

diazdotjesusatmayodotedu or phone 904-537-7876

thanx!!!!!!!!!!



         


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Today I had my OB-Xa open and I was listening to the
difference between the stereo CEM3360 based output on
the synth itself vs. leads going straight to four of
the individual voice cards. I was blown away with the
difference. I know that there must be allowances for
headroom, but the sheer difference in bass and
presence...

it got me thinking about the CS-80.

Has anyone ever evaluated the CS-80's output section
this way? Has anyone resorted to wiring the 8 voices
straight into their mixer? 

[w]

PS- what's the best way to obtain a copy of the CS-80
instruction manual?



 
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