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2009-03-29 by Jo Jo Hillingsworth
I've only become obsessed with the CS-80 for the past several months...since I don't have $20k to throw down on one, what is the next best option? I've seen a lot of people talk about the CS-60 as the next best thing, but what about the CS-70m? Or is there another Yamaha CS model out there that I am missing?
2009-03-30 by Fredrik Segerfalk
The closest thing is imo the CS70m. You lose the velocity sensitivity and some other features, but in all it's a great synth with the same VCO, VCF etc as the CS-80 + you get the 2 vco/voice, which you don't get with the 60 or 50. I have the 60,70 and 80, so I know what I'm talking about :) Check out these excellent demos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfg8VHR08lU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcNp_-Rdkdg&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fne0oIEv-WI&feature=channel Fredrik Segerfalk www.analogsweden.com Jo Jo Hillingsworth wrote:
> > I've only become obsessed with the CS-80 for the past several > months...since I don't have $20k to throw down on one, what is the > next best option? I've seen a lot of people talk about the CS-60 as > the next best thing, but what about the CS-70m? Or is there another > Yamaha CS model out there that I am missing? > >
2009-03-30 by Wavecomputer360
You might want to give the GX-1 a try :-). Seriously, I think a CS60 comes closest to the 80 in terms of performance, and even a CS50 can do a lot of the tricks -- if not the best, alas -- of the 80. If you´re only after the sound, these smaller model will do. A CS70M has about as much in common with a CS80 as, say, a Polymoog with a Memorymoog. Stephen ____________________________________________________________________ "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") Stephen Parsick live in concert: Bochum Planetarium (Germany), 13th of December, 2008, 08:00 pm. Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux, reissued with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. For more info please check www.parsick.com For legal downloads please check: http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen+Parsick
----- Original Message ----- From: Jo Jo Hillingsworth To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:05 AM Subject: [yamahacs80] the best substitute for a cs-80 I've only become obsessed with the CS-80 for the past several months...since I don't have $20k to throw down on one, what is the next best option? I've seen a lot of people talk about the CS-60 as the next best thing, but what about the CS-70m? Or is there another Yamaha CS model out there that I am missing? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-03-30 by Fredrik Segerfalk
You have obviously never tried a CS70m. Fredrik Segerfalk www.analogsweden.com Wavecomputer360 wrote:
> > > A CS70M has about as much in common with a CS80 as, say, a Polymoog > with a Memorymoog. > > Stephen > > __________________________________________________________ > > "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little > piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") > > Stephen Parsick live in concert: Bochum Planetarium (Germany), 13th of > December, 2008, 08:00 pm. > > Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux, > reissued with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. For more info > please check www.parsick.com > > For legal downloads please check: > > http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen+Parsick > <http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen+Parsick> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jo Jo Hillingsworth > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:05 AM > Subject: [yamahacs80] the best substitute for a cs-80 > > I've only become obsessed with the CS-80 for the past several > months...since I don't have $20k to throw down on one, what is the > next best option? I've seen a lot of people talk about the CS-60 as > the next best thing, but what about the CS-70m? Or is there another > Yamaha CS model out there that I am missing? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >
2009-03-30 by Richard Atkinson
My vote for a CS-80 substitute goes to two CS-50s. You can play them together in unison with different settings and get *a lot* of the CS-80 sound. Yes the CS-70M does have the dual channel structure, and more sophisticated LFOs, but where I think it falls down is in the filtering. The CS-70M only provides a single (multi-mode) filter per channel voice, whereas the CS-50, CS-60 and CS-80 all share that resonant high pass into low pass structure which I think is responsible for *a lot* of the polyphonic CS sound.
From: Fredrik Segerfalk Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:54 PM To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] the best substitute for a cs-80 You have obviously never tried a CS70m. Fredrik Segerfalk www.analogsweden.com Wavecomputer360 wrote: > > > A CS70M has about as much in common with a CS80 as, say, a Polymoog > with a Memorymoog. > > Stephen > > __________________________________________________________ > > "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little > piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") > > Stephen Parsick live in concert: Bochum Planetarium (Germany), 13th of > December, 2008, 08:00 pm. > > Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux, > reissued with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. For more info > please check www.parsick.com > > For legal downloads please check: > > http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen+Parsick > <http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen+Parsick> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jo Jo Hillingsworth > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:05 AM > Subject: [yamahacs80] the best substitute for a cs-80 > > I've only become obsessed with the CS-80 for the past several > months...since I don't have $20k to throw down on one, what is the > next best option? I've seen a lot of people talk about the CS-60 as > the next best thing, but what about the CS-70m? Or is there another > Yamaha CS model out there that I am missing? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-03-30 by rj krohn
and, as implied, a polymoog can get pretty close SONICALLY(obviously not performance-wise). --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Richard Atkinson <rga24@...> wrote:
From: Richard Atkinson <rga24@...>
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] the best substitute for a cs-80
To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 8:14 AM
My vote for a CS-80 substitute goes to two CS-50s. You can play them together in unison with different settings and get *a lot* of the CS-80 sound.
Yes the CS-70M does have the dual channel structure, and more sophisticated LFOs, but where I think it falls down is in the filtering. The CS-70M only provides a single (multi-mode) filter per channel voice, whereas the CS-50, CS-60 and CS-80 all share that resonant high pass into low pass structure which I think is responsible for *a lot* of the polyphonic CS sound.
From: Fredrik Segerfalk
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:54 PM
To: yamahacs80@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] the best substitute for a cs-80
You have obviously never tried a CS70m.
Fredrik Segerfalk
www.analogsweden. com
Wavecomputer360 wrote:
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> A CS70M has about as much in common with a CS80 as, say, a Polymoog
> with a Memorymoog.
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> Stephen
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> "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little
> piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android")
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> Stephen Parsick live in concert: Bochum Planetarium (Germany), 13th of
> December, 2008, 08:00 pm.
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> Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux,
> reissued with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. For more info
> please check www.parsick. com
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> For legal downloads please check:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jo Jo Hillingsworth
> To: yamahacs80@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:yamahacs80% 40yahoogroups. com>
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:05 AM
> Subject: [yamahacs80] the best substitute for a cs-80
>
> I've only become obsessed with the CS-80 for the past several
> months...since I don't have $20k to throw down on one, what is the
> next best option? I've seen a lot of people talk about the CS-60 as
> the next best thing, but what about the CS-70m? Or is there another
> Yamaha CS model out there that I am missing?
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2009-03-30 by Wavecomputer360
Oh, I have, but I wasn´t impressed. It is nice in its own right -- like a Polymoog certainly is -- but it has nothing that would make me want to own one. If you buy it as a CS80 replacement, you will be disappointed. Stephen ____________________________________________________________________ "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") Stephen Parsick live in concert: Bochum Planetarium (Germany), 13th of December, 2008, 08:00 pm. Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux, reissued with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. For more info please check www.parsick.com For legal downloads please check: http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen+Parsick
----- Original Message ----- From: Fredrik Segerfalk To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] the best substitute for a cs-80 You have obviously never tried a CS70m. Fredrik Segerfalk www.analogsweden.com Wavecomputer360 wrote: > > > A CS70M has about as much in common with a CS80 as, say, a Polymoog > with a Memorymoog. > > Stephen > > __________________________________________________________ > > "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little > piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") > > Stephen Parsick live in concert: Bochum Planetarium (Germany), 13th of > December, 2008, 08:00 pm. > > Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux, > reissued with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. For more info > please check www.parsick.com > > For legal downloads please check: > > http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen+Parsick > <http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen+Parsick> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jo Jo Hillingsworth > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:05 AM > Subject: [yamahacs80] the best substitute for a cs-80 > > I've only become obsessed with the CS-80 for the past several > months...since I don't have $20k to throw down on one, what is the > next best option? I've seen a lot of people talk about the CS-60 as > the next best thing, but what about the CS-70m? Or is there another > Yamaha CS model out there that I am missing? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-03-30 by David
How can you play two CS-50's in unison--do they both need the Kenton midi mod? On 31/03/2009, at 1:14 AM, Richard Atkinson wrote: > My vote for a CS-80 substitute goes to two CS-50s. You can play them > together in unison with different settings and get *a lot* of the > CS-80 sound. > > Yes the CS-70M does have the dual channel structure, and more > sophisticated LFOs, but where I think it falls down is in the > filtering. The CS-70M only provides a single (multi-mode) filter per > channel voice, whereas the CS-50, CS-60 and CS-80 all share that > resonant high pass into low pass structure which I think is > responsible for *a lot* of the polyphonic CS sound. > > From: Fredrik Segerfalk > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:54 PM > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] the best substitute for a cs-80 > > You have obviously never tried a CS70m. > > Fredrik Segerfalk > www.analogsweden.com > > Wavecomputer360 wrote: > > > > > > A CS70M has about as much in common with a CS80 as, say, a Polymoog > > with a Memorymoog. > > > > Stephen > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little > > piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") > > > > Stephen Parsick live in concert: Bochum Planetarium (Germany), > 13th of > > December, 2008, 08:00 pm. > > > > Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux, > > reissued with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. For more > info > > please check www.parsick.com > > > > For legal downloads please check: > > > > http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen+Parsick > > <http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen+Parsick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jo Jo Hillingsworth > > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:05 AM > > Subject: [yamahacs80] the best substitute for a cs-80 > > > > I've only become obsessed with the CS-80 for the past several > > months...since I don't have $20k to throw down on one, what is the > > next best option? I've seen a lot of people talk about the CS-60 as > > the next best thing, but what about the CS-70m? Or is there another > > Yamaha CS model out there that I am missing? > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2009-03-31 by Richard Atkinson
With your left hand and your right hand!
From: David Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:10 PM To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] the best substitute for a cs-80 How can you play two CS-50's in unison--do they both need the Kenton midi mod? On 31/03/2009, at 1:14 AM, Richard Atkinson wrote: > My vote for a CS-80 substitute goes to two CS-50s. You can play them > together in unison with different settings and get *a lot* of the > CS-80 sound. > > Yes the CS-70M does have the dual channel structure, and more > sophisticated LFOs, but where I think it falls down is in the > filtering. The CS-70M only provides a single (multi-mode) filter per > channel voice, whereas the CS-50, CS-60 and CS-80 all share that > resonant high pass into low pass structure which I think is > responsible for *a lot* of the polyphonic CS sound. > > From: Fredrik Segerfalk > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:54 PM > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [yamahacs80] the best substitute for a cs-80 > > You have obviously never tried a CS70m. > > Fredrik Segerfalk > www.analogsweden.com > > Wavecomputer360 wrote: > > > > > > A CS70M has about as much in common with a CS80 as, say, a Polymoog > > with a Memorymoog. > > > > Stephen > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little > > piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") > > > > Stephen Parsick live in concert: Bochum Planetarium (Germany), > 13th of > > December, 2008, 08:00 pm. > > > > Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux, > > reissued with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. For more > info > > please check www.parsick.com > > > > For legal downloads please check: > > > > http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen+Parsick > > <http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen+Parsick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jo Jo Hillingsworth > > To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com <mailto:yamahacs80%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:05 AM > > Subject: [yamahacs80] the best substitute for a cs-80 > > > > I've only become obsessed with the CS-80 for the past several > > months...since I don't have $20k to throw down on one, what is the > > next best option? I've seen a lot of people talk about the CS-60 as > > the next best thing, but what about the CS-70m? Or is there another > > Yamaha CS model out there that I am missing? > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]