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CS80 tuning party!!

CS80 tuning party!!

2008-02-17 by David Rogoff

Hi everyone.

Well, yesterday may have been the first time a bunch of people got
together to learn to tune a CS80 since some training sessions at Yamaha
thirty years ago!

Scott (who's in this group, and whose CS80 I added the Kenton MIDI kit
to), wanted me to clean up a few voices that had drifted a bit since I
last tuned it (a little over two years ago). He figured we'd make it a
party, and invited a couple of other CS80 owners, including Shawn from
Analoghaven.com and Steve. It was a little crowded in Scott's studio
loft, with the ton of gear he has (and the Obie 4-voice wasn't even
there!), but we managed.

It took a long time, partly from schmoozing, partly from letting
everyone try tuning a voice card, and a lot from a D'oh! moment: Scott
has the MIDI in of the CS80 hooked up to a Kurzweil MIDIBoard. It's a
great setup for recording poly-aftertouch performances on his Mac and
then controlling the CS80. However, the spring-loaded pitch and mod
wheels of the MIDIBoard don't have a dead zone and don't always go back
to zero. Apparently, during our pizza break after the first four voices,
the wheels got hit, and the pitch-bend was slightly off for the next
four sets of cards.

In the end, it was all in tune. I think we also came up with a very nice
and fast tuning procedure which I'll write up in the next few days.
Looks like I may be putting in a couple more Kenton kits in the near
future, too. Then we have to get all three MIDI-ed CS80s in one room,
played from the MIDIBoard, plus Scott's Obie 4-voice via a Doepfer
MIDI-CV interface. I think the sound will violate several international
weapons treaties!

David

Re: [yamahacs80] CS80 tuning party!!

2008-02-18 by rj krohn

that sounds killer! damn, wish i was there....i cracked mine last week to touch up a few voices and realized that its definitely not the most miserable process in the world....OBXA is definitely more annoying....

David Rogoff <david@...> wrote: Hi everyone.

Well, yesterday may have been the first time a bunch of people got
together to learn to tune a CS80 since some training sessions at Yamaha
thirty years ago!

Scott (who's in this group, and whose CS80 I added the Kenton MIDI kit
to), wanted me to clean up a few voices that had drifted a bit since I
last tuned it (a little over two years ago). He figured we'd make it a
party, and invited a couple of other CS80 owners, including Shawn from
Analoghaven.com and Steve. It was a little crowded in Scott's studio
loft, with the ton of gear he has (and the Obie 4-voice wasn't even
there!), but we managed.

It took a long time, partly from schmoozing, partly from letting
everyone try tuning a voice card, and a lot from a D'oh! moment: Scott
has the MIDI in of the CS80 hooked up to a Kurzweil MIDIBoard. It's a
great setup for recording poly-aftertouch performances on his Mac and
then controlling the CS80. However, the spring-loaded pitch and mod
wheels of the MIDIBoard don't have a dead zone and don't always go back
to zero. Apparently, during our pizza break after the first four voices,
the wheels got hit, and the pitch-bend was slightly off for the next
four sets of cards.

In the end, it was all in tune. I think we also came up with a very nice
and fast tuning procedure which I'll write up in the next few days.
Looks like I may be putting in a couple more Kenton kits in the near
future, too. Then we have to get all three MIDI-ed CS80s in one room,
played from the MIDIBoard, plus Scott's Obie 4-voice via a Doepfer
MIDI-CV interface. I think the sound will violate several international
weapons treaties!

David





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Re: [yamahacs80] CS80 tuning party!!

2008-02-19 by steve sloan

David

Many many thanks for the great company and sharing
your tuning insights with us - I'll host the next CS80
tuning party at my studio! That was great fun. Maybe
there are other LA-area CS80 members interested if we
do another one?

[I'll try not to hit the mod wheel on the midiboard
this time!!]

cheers
steve

--- David Rogoff <david@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone.
>
> Well, yesterday may have been the first time a bunch
> of people got
> together to learn to tune a CS80 since some training
> sessions at Yamaha
> thirty years ago!
>
> Scott (who's in this group, and whose CS80 I added
> the Kenton MIDI kit
> to), wanted me to clean up a few voices that had
> drifted a bit since I
> last tuned it (a little over two years ago). He
> figured we'd make it a
> party, and invited a couple of other CS80 owners,
> including Shawn from
> Analoghaven.com and Steve. It was a little crowded
> in Scott's studio
> loft, with the ton of gear he has (and the Obie
> 4-voice wasn't even
> there!), but we managed.
>
> It took a long time, partly from schmoozing, partly
> from letting
> everyone try tuning a voice card, and a lot from a
> D'oh! moment: Scott
> has the MIDI in of the CS80 hooked up to a Kurzweil
> MIDIBoard. It's a
> great setup for recording poly-aftertouch
> performances on his Mac and
> then controlling the CS80. However, the
> spring-loaded pitch and mod
> wheels of the MIDIBoard don't have a dead zone and
> don't always go back
> to zero. Apparently, during our pizza break after
> the first four voices,
> the wheels got hit, and the pitch-bend was slightly
> off for the next
> four sets of cards.
>
> In the end, it was all in tune. I think we also came
> up with a very nice
> and fast tuning procedure which I'll write up in the
> next few days.
> Looks like I may be putting in a couple more Kenton
> kits in the near
> future, too. Then we have to get all three MIDI-ed
> CS80s in one room,
> played from the MIDIBoard, plus Scott's Obie 4-voice
> via a Doepfer
> MIDI-CV interface. I think the sound will violate
> several international
> weapons treaties!
>
> David
>



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Re: CS80 tuning party!!

2008-02-19 by Stephen Teller

Wow- sorry I missed this. Where was it? I must have missed the
original post.

Stephen Teller

Where r us???? - Re: CS80 tuning party!!

2008-02-19 by David Rogoff

Stephen Teller wrote:
> Wow- sorry I missed this. Where was it? I must have missed the
> original post
It wasn't announced here. We can try that in the future. This one was in
Santa Monica, CA.

That reminds me - a couple of years ago I posted about a CS80 group
map. It's still here: http://www.frappr.com/cs80. Please add yourself
and we can see who's nearby! Not surprisingly, there are many of us in
Southern California. Maybe we'll have one at my place (Irvine) soon,
since I should have between one and three CS80s passing through in the
near future.

David

RE: [yamahacs80] CS80 tuning party!!

2008-02-20 by Scott Metzger

Yeah, that was loads of fun David. I am glad you could make it out. We all learned a ton about tuning the beast!! Can't wait to see Shawn's finished CS80.

To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com
From: david@...
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:28:10 -0800
Subject: [yamahacs80] CS80 tuning party!!




















Hi everyone.



Well, yesterday may have been the first time a bunch of people got

together to learn to tune a CS80 since some training sessions at Yamaha

thirty years ago!



Scott (who's in this group, and whose CS80 I added the Kenton MIDI kit

to), wanted me to clean up a few voices that had drifted a bit since I

last tuned it (a little over two years ago). He figured we'd make it a

party, and invited a couple of other CS80 owners, including Shawn from

Analoghaven.com and Steve. It was a little crowded in Scott's studio

loft, with the ton of gear he has (and the Obie 4-voice wasn't even

there!), but we managed.



It took a long time, partly from schmoozing, partly from letting

everyone try tuning a voice card, and a lot from a D'oh! moment: Scott

has the MIDI in of the CS80 hooked up to a Kurzweil MIDIBoard. It's a

great setup for recording poly-aftertouch performances on his Mac and

then controlling the CS80. However, the spring-loaded pitch and mod

wheels of the MIDIBoard don't have a dead zone and don't always go back

to zero. Apparently, during our pizza break after the first four voices,

the wheels got hit, and the pitch-bend was slightly off for the next

four sets of cards.



In the end, it was all in tune. I think we also came up with a very nice

and fast tuning procedure which I'll write up in the next few days.

Looks like I may be putting in a couple more Kenton kits in the near

future, too. Then we have to get all three MIDI-ed CS80s in one room,

played from the MIDIBoard, plus Scott's Obie 4-voice via a Doepfer

MIDI-CV interface. I think the sound will violate several international

weapons treaties!



David























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