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Re: [yamahacs80] What it is about the CS80

2005-12-16 by Max Fazio

"It's always a mix of things" said Paolo Conte ( an italian singer ) in one of his songs; well, even if I was fortunate to play one big CS-80 back in the first nineties I never had the chance of owning one because being not a pro and being not a technician I couldn't keep it in the shape it deserved to be , nor I have very short room for it to dedicate into my home. But I always dreamt of playing it again. I'm a Vangelisian since 16 years but wasn't this that persuaded me to love the instrument....the only link I see with the man and all the cs80 owners is the opinion that this machine can quickly be the natural extension of your fingers, there was a precise reason why some levers are backwards, or is there the ribbon instead of the usual wheel etc....the reason was *to let as much as possible the musician think to play music and not to loose time for achieveing a special technique or jazz like that*. The mix of things that make a CSwhatever sound different from synthesizers (which I refer to as a different category ) to me are:
  1.. user interface, the best to record hands down
  2.. the ability to change drastically a sound with very few passages ( get a bee buzzing out of a flute simply raising the brilliance,  or a sci-fi effect in the mid of a classical part by moving a ringmodulator lever !!)
  3.. Its touch response which still I'd like to understand ( * sorry David but I still have doubts , I listened again to the presets from a MIDI retrofitted CS-80 as commanded by an external sequencer, and they **DO** change their Attack Level and not Cutoff* )
Thx for your interest
M
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tim Siefkes 
  To: yamahacs80@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:34 AM
  Subject: [yamahacs80] What it is about the CS80


  (I've been exchanging back and forth a little off the list with Max 
  about all of this too.) As I just said to Max yesterday, when I first 
  saw one of these beasts in a music store back in '79 it was simply the 
  most amazing thing I had ever played. I knew I had to have one, whatever 
  it took. The expressiveness, the control, the ability to simply lean 
  into a note to bring it out some, all the subtle nuances that can be 
  added. The sounds are great, but the best parts of the 80 are the 
  performance features. I too, Laurie, always felt as you do that this 
  instrument, more than any other I have owned/played feels more like an 
  extension of myself. There's an immediacy and a connection that just 
  doesn't appear in other instruments. I played mine in three rock bands 
  that travelled the US a lot, doing everything from The Beatles to 
  Ultravox and this synth was always well worth the effort to haul it around.

  But of course, we're simply preaching to the choir here! :-)

  -Tim S.
  <Minneapolis>

  laurie wrote:

  >     I play in a very loud Hard rock Group(.FIST.)My CS-80 has been an
  > integral part of the band since the early eightys......touring and
  > opening with bands such as Triumph/Molly
  > Hatchet/Harlequin/Motorhead/Krokus...et all.... Aside from the 20 minute
  > warm up, The CS-80 delivers one hell of a show every time....Zero
  > latency....controllers on hand....poly aftertouch.....no midi
  > lockup.....it is by far less work for me to have a CS-80 in my rig for
  > me because there is no second guessing or pondering...It really becomes
  > an extension of me... giving me the ability to express whatever pops
  > into my head at any given time.....the Sound levels are consistently
  > solid......its always in the monitors and always in the front......Where
  > the alternatives to a real CS 80 fails is the 220 pounds of missing
  > audio that never consistently shows up at the FOH position......Nothing
  > can put out solid low end like a CS-80 can live....Sound men never have
  > to search for it (its right there, driven by 48 volt circuitry all the
  > way down to a half  hertz...)with jbl 4530s for house lows, I have moved
  > tables and chairs with the CS-80 cause it can deliver....Many pitchers
  > of beer have foamed over but not from all the midi gak....its the
  > CS-80......every time.............
  >




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